Airforce Talon SS Refurbishment

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I think I seen more kinds at like AliExpress as well
Yep, only works on bottles 60mm to 61mm.
So that ad lies, will not work on a Texan, they have bigger bottles than the Talon or Condor.

I could beat it on to my 0.5L CF (61.5mm) and then had to cut it off because I couldn't turn it to get it clocked.
Less than $10 on AliExpress, just cheap fairly hard plastic.
I bought 2, my aluminum 0.5L (60.5mm) is fine, can clock it, but I want one for my CF bottle.

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I'll probably have Jake at jb3dpd.com print me a custom buttstock.
If I have to spend the money might as well make it look good too.
He does REALLY excellent work.

-- Matt
 
Yep, only works on bottles 60mm to 61mm.
So that ad lies, will not work on a Texan, they have bigger bottles than the Talon or Condor.

I could beat it on to my 0.5L CF (61.5mm) and then had to cut it off because I couldn't turn it to get it clocked.
Less than $10 on AliExpress, just cheap fairly hard plastic.
I bought 2, my aluminum 0.5L (60.5mm) is fine, can clock it, but I want one for my CF bottle.

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I'll probably have Jake at jb3dpd.com print me a custom buttstock.
If I have to spend the money might as well make it look good too.
He does REALLY excellent work.

-- Matt
Ok . I seen Alibaba or that AliExpress china Amazon's looked to show different kinds of that so maybe one of there's can fit .,?

So here says to 64?


Seems small as you say 60 or too big as that in ,64

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Custom made .... Only 350$$ .. what more could you ask for ?

 
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Ok . I seen Alibaba or that AliExpress china Amazon's looked to show different kinds of that so maybe one of there's can fit .,?

So here says to 64?


Seems small as you say 60 or too big as that in ,64

🤤


Custom made .... Only 350$$ .. what more could you ask for ?

Yeah, emailed MCS after I found out their AirForce PCP buttstock didn't fit.
They offered return for trade.
But it is just a cheap plastic tube with a tiny cam lock.
I'm unimpresed with their offerings.

Maddog's stuff is WAY outside my budget.
Trajectron has a metal one for $120.

But I'll probably end up here:
They literally have a CF bottle option for $95
 
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Ok . I seen Alibaba or that AliExpress china Amazon's looked to show different kinds of that so maybe one of there's can fit .,?

So here says to 64?


Seems small as you say 60 or too big as that in ,64

🤤


Custom made .... Only 350$$ .. what more could you ask for ?

Too big is easy, that is what why I have a bunch of largish shrink tube.
 
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Some good info being generated here, thanks. I didnt know about some of the sites listed and others I was hesitant on ordering from.

Hate to keep interjecting my own AF guns in here and hijacking, but at least one of mine is a frankengun as well so seems appropriate.

Did get out today to do a little chony work on the two I've been tinkering with to see where they're at.

The Talon with reg is hitting right at 10fpe in .177. For whatever reason, I thought it was going to be a bit more, but I'm happy with that as a starting point. This is with PW set at 7. I was looking for around 12fpe for a plinker. Will tinker with PW settings a bit later. Still cold out.

The .177 Condor gave two soft shots at around 1074fps with 13.4 gr Monsters at 3k psi fill and then settled in around 1135. This is with the PW at 4-8. I have some 15gr slugs coming for it so will tinker with the valve loc kit, O ring behind the top hat, etc to try to get those around the 950 mark with the slugs.
 
Some good info being generated here, thanks. I didnt know about some of the sites listed and others I was hesitant on ordering from.

Hate to keep interjecting my own AF guns in here and hijacking, but at least one of mine is a frankengun as well so seems appropriate.

Did get out today to do a little chony work on the two I've been tinkering with to see where they're at.

The Talon with reg is hitting right at 10fpe in .177. For whatever reason, I thought it was going to be a bit more, but I'm happy with that as a starting point. This is with PW set at 7. I was looking for around 12fpe for a plinker. Will tinker with PW settings a bit later. Still cold out.

The .177 Condor gave two soft shots at around 1074fps with 13.4 gr Monsters at 3k psi fill and then settled in around 1135. This is with the PW at 4-8. I have some 15gr slugs coming for it so will tinker with the valve loc kit, O ring behind the top hat, etc to try to get those around the 950 mark with the slugs.
Nah, was baking bread & cookies.
Have to go in the office (OH THE HORRORS) tomorrow and if I don't show up with goodies I may not get out alive.
The crew take their coffee and goodies seriously.
Since I supply the goodies and I direct the purchase of coffee (Ruta Maya Medium Roast) they sort of expect I will support their morning habits.
As of Friday they were almost out of cookies...

I did drain the 1.1L bottle.

I'll probably get to that adjusting that soon, last batch of cookies in the oven.
Sour Raspberry & Lemon cookies (my own unique recipe)
Black Garlic and Parmesan Sourdough (also unique)

-- Matt
 
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Some good info being generated here, thanks. I didnt know about some of the sites listed and others I was hesitant on ordering from.

Hate to keep interjecting my own AF guns in here and hijacking, but at least one of mine is a frankengun as well so seems appropriate.

Did get out today to do a little chony work on the two I've been tinkering with to see where they're at.

The Talon with reg is hitting right at 10fpe in .177. For whatever reason, I thought it was going to be a bit more, but I'm happy with that as a starting point. This is with PW set at 7. I was looking for around 12fpe for a plinker. Will tinker with PW settings a bit later. Still cold out.

The .177 Condor gave two soft shots at around 1074fps with 13.4 gr Monsters at 3k psi fill and then settled in around 1135. This is with the PW at 4-8. I have some 15gr slugs coming for it so will tinker with the valve loc kit, O ring behind the top hat, etc to try to get those around the 950 mark with the slugs.
Well, it appears this Talon does not like slugs.
Big drop off in FPS.
I guess I need that high flow valve and the heavy spring and hammer
It does H&N Barracuda Match well and the JTS 25.39 too
 
I have a buttstock from Aliexpress in route to use on a 500cc carbon bottle build. I think you can use a heat gun or place it in hot water then position it quickly on your bottle. Should work and if not only out a few dollars.
I didn't like them, just plastic and hard plastic at that.
I tried the heat gun but the plastic in the center is just too thick, you start melting the outer layer well before the inner, and important, later even gets warm.
I also wanted something I could use on different bottles and they surely are not that.
 
I didn't like them, just plastic and hard plastic at that.
I tried the heat gun but the plastic in the center is just too thick, you start melting the outer layer well before the inner, and important, later even gets warm.
I also wanted something I could use on different bottles and they surely are not that.
I went with this one: