Tariffs Explained - Pyramyd AIR Insyder
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A pretty level headed conversation. I hadn't thought about possible across the board price raises, regardless of country of origin, to help mitigate higher prices on some products. Reasonable.
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Good thing I have a lot of pellets stocked up and most of the toys I need to weather all this out. Shesh.
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Overhead of running a business is pretty much a constant, with the workforce and associated costs being top of where one can scale back in such times we're in.
When sales slump due to say economic uncertainly, most businesses become no longer profitable. Result is one needs to find more profit to keep the doors open & survive.
So even before said tariffs cause a higher import cost for replacement inventory the positive cash flow must go on ... so inventory you do have kinda requires getting more for it .... In Theory anyways.
The rich get richer, the working class has to operate leaner .... what a world !!
When sales slump due to say economic uncertainly, most businesses become no longer profitable. Result is one needs to find more profit to keep the doors open & survive.
So even before said tariffs cause a higher import cost for replacement inventory the positive cash flow must go on ... so inventory you do have kinda requires getting more for it .... In Theory anyways.
The rich get richer, the working class has to operate leaner .... what a world !!
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I'm so happy this was posted by a moderator.. thank you so much.. really I just sent in a contact you message asking if you could put up this..
I'd also ask if you could post how we deal with this..as in I live in Oregon and I have purchased from Airgun archery fun in Canada.. Wes was not exactly clear on how it works but seemed to think he'd either not be able to ship or he pays the fees.. but it would be nice to know if possible how it works, I don't need to order anything but I'd hate to buy something from wherever and then find out that the fees were more than the item and maybe you couldn't afford it but were stuck because you already paid for it and it was shipped but then you couldn't pay the fees..
also would be nice to know if the fees are charged by the shipper or do you get it and pay the post office like a COD? just the basics, I have no interest in political stuff just honestly how does it work and how do we do things..
myself for now I'll stay with reputable dealers here in the USA so I'll not get a surprise..
Mark
I'd also ask if you could post how we deal with this..as in I live in Oregon and I have purchased from Airgun archery fun in Canada.. Wes was not exactly clear on how it works but seemed to think he'd either not be able to ship or he pays the fees.. but it would be nice to know if possible how it works, I don't need to order anything but I'd hate to buy something from wherever and then find out that the fees were more than the item and maybe you couldn't afford it but were stuck because you already paid for it and it was shipped but then you couldn't pay the fees..
also would be nice to know if the fees are charged by the shipper or do you get it and pay the post office like a COD? just the basics, I have no interest in political stuff just honestly how does it work and how do we do things..
myself for now I'll stay with reputable dealers here in the USA so I'll not get a surprise..
Mark
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one thing I forgot to mention was Tyler mentioned that some would just be paused as in not available..
that brings another issue..
several years back I wanted a attaman ap16 compact but then political things happened and pyramid air put them on clearance, but then I got worried about parts.. now they are totally not available, so that would and should affect choices we make..as in do we want to buy this and then will it turn into a paper weight?
Mark
that brings another issue..
several years back I wanted a attaman ap16 compact but then political things happened and pyramid air put them on clearance, but then I got worried about parts.. now they are totally not available, so that would and should affect choices we make..as in do we want to buy this and then will it turn into a paper weight?
Mark
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yes thank you you absolutely wonderful moderators.. you are really appreciated and I can't say thank you enough!!
I'd really like to see all the members say a thank you..
it's been too long since I started a thread, but I'd really like to see a appreciation thread as a collective of thanks for all you do.
Mark
I'd really like to see all the members say a thank you..
it's been too long since I started a thread, but I'd really like to see a appreciation thread as a collective of thanks for all you do.
Mark
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I guess I'm getting old and rusty..
I don't even remember how to make it bold like you did..if anyone starts a thank you thread it would be absolutely awesome to show we appreciate the forum..
Mark
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The current Z1 report input data sheets indicate pay raises, bonuses, 401K matching are all decreasing while stock buybacks are increasing in the expectation of a decline in consumer spending.
This indicates that a "planned recession" is now in progress.
AGN Moderators thank you very much for this thread.
This indicates that a "planned recession" is now in progress.
AGN Moderators thank you very much for this thread.
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i just copy and pasted , it just came out this wayI guess I'm getting old and rusty..
if anyone starts a thank you thread it would be absolutely awesome to show we appreciate the forum..
Mark
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All sounds kinda bad but who knows what’s really gonna happen. Ride it out and see. I guess it’s a good excuse for me to get a few new toys on the way 
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historical reality is that across the board tariffs do not work.
the statement jobs will be created is also not true.
jobs require infrastructure and trained employees and for the most part do not exist any more.
the other issue is that domestic companies will increase prices to match the price increases of imported comparable products.
and watch the increase in inflation, this time the government really is the cause of increased inflation
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I mean they were responsible before this too 100%. However, I agree with basically everything thing else in your post 100%
. Hopefully these tariffs will be more of a leveraging tool to negotiations ultimately leading to better deals across the board. In that manner tariffs are a useful tool but in general as a basic across the board policy you are correct about what history shows. The problem so far is the intentions of these tariffs has been really unclear. I believe that has created a lot of market uncertainty. We will have to wait and see how this all goes.Upvote 0
The base economic driver of inflation 2020 to current was energy.I mean they were responsible before this too 100%. However, I agree with basically everything thing else in your post 100%
Barrel of oil cost:
2010-2014 was $70-$110
2020-2024 was $70-$80
Gasoline (regional variations are significant)
2010-2014 $2.55-$3.50
2020-2024 $3.35-$4.65
Diesel, primary shipping fuel, was even greater variation. First base cost of material or finished goods in US is shipping.
Net profit by oil companies was record levels 2022-2024 (post pandemic).
Tariff driven inflation will be dependent upon a lot of factors, level and time being to two largest variables. Unknown future variables like breadth and regions could factor highly. Quarterly inflation could be as high as 4-5%. There are too many unknowns at this point to model the effects with any level of certainty.
There is already a drop in purchase of capital equipment by domestic manufacturing. Survey of purchasing managers is ongoing. That is a leading factor for determining domestic economic trends.
Economic uncertainty is causing companies to reevaluate purchasing decisions.
Economic outlook could be a significant downturn. GDP will be negatively affected. For how long or how much, again, cannot be modeled with any level of certainty.
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It's now a given that higher prices will be the result of increased tariffs. OK, that's a given. Now, should the tariffs be rescinded, will the prices go down as well, or will the retailer keep the money as profit? Orv.
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Yes and no, the price drops will not reach the level of price increase.
Once consumers adjust to a higher new "normal" price structure any downward adjustment will be seen as positive and that level will be accepted as the new "normal". So a full reduction is not required and net profit will be increased overall.
Current example being gasoline prices. Reductions have been limited to around 70% of overall increases.
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Yes sir it's a polite way of saying we will be fine but you guys are screwed!
They have the ability to adjust to keep profits the same or close to it while we the consumer do not! Think they'll pass those increases down to their employees? NOT! Like you said it's all a game to keep the rich in power. Corporate profits in this country are out of control and have been for some time now and doing nothing but spitting in our faces and telling us it's raining! Pure greed is the problem across the board and the stock market over the people!
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