Tariffs Explained - Pyramyd AIR Insyder

[rcs9250]

Now, should the tariffs be rescinded, will the prices go down as well, or will the retailer keep the money as profit? Orv.

I am always suspect of this as well. During Covid things in the ammunition world went crazy and prices were insane in a lot of areas. From what I have seen they came down post covid but not to pre covid prices but probably due to inflation. It will definitely be interesting to watch. I would suspect that retailers will hold the line as best they can because they don’t want to lose customers or have product just sit stagnant on shelves because no one is willing to pay the “new” price.

 

[Heyucombs]

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Thank you guy's.

 

[Trucker3573]

I don’t really get on board with the anger towards corporations. They can’t price above what the market will bear. There has to be a profit margin in order to stay afloat and it’s what drives innovation and technological advancement. Is the system perfect? No but I would highly argue it’s 100000000000 X better than any alternative. Scary thing many fight for those alternatives.

 

[Troy Bakel]

Yes sir it's a polite way of saying we will be fine but you guys are screwed!
They have the ability to adjust to keep profits the same or close to it while we the consumer do not! Think they'll pass those increases down to their employees? NOT! Like you said it's all a game to keep the rich in power. Corporate profits in this country are out of control and have been for some time now and doing nothing but spitting in our faces and telling us it's raining! Pure greed is the problem across the board and the stock market over the people!

The Greedy and Power Hungry rule America baby!

Just think if the government elected by Americans took the billions it spent giving South East Asia to the North Vietnamese, Vietnam Cong, Khmer Rouge, and Pathet Lao, and the trillions it spent giving Irag to Iran and Afghanistan to the Taliban and spent that money on America instead of financing terrorism around the world ..... l bet we could have been one awesome democracy instead of the greatest debtor nation on the planet.

 

[Michael]

The Greedy and Power Hungry rule America baby!

Just think if the government elected by Americans took the billions it spent giving South East Asia to the North Vietnamese, Vietnam Cong, Khmer Rouge, and Pathet Lao, and the trillions it spent giving Irag to Iran and Afghanistan to the Taliban and spent that money on America instead of financing terrorism around the world ..... l bet we could have been one awesome democracy instead of the greatest debtor nation on the planet.

This thread isn’t a political free for all. Please ensure your comments remain in line with our rules.

 

[markhooper]

This thread isn’t a political free for all. Please ensure your comments remain in line with our rules.

is there anyone who can post on how the terrifs are dealt with for us individual customers, like I have in the past ordered from Airgun archery fun in Canada, I've seen others talking about ordering from other various countries.. so I'd just like to know how we navigate this?
when,who and how are individual orders pay the terrifs?
thank you so much Michael.. you wonderful moderators do a great job.
Mark

 

[Michael]

is there anyone who can post on how the terrifs are dealt with for us individual customers, like I have in the past ordered from Airgun archery fun in Canada, I've seen others talking about ordering from other various countries.. so I'd just like to know how we navigate this?
when,who and how are individual orders pay the terrifs?
thank you so much Michael.. you wonderful moderators do a great job.
Mark

Legitimate Q&A regarding how the tariffs affect our sport and/or product availability are always welcome.

 

[Peashooter]

I am sad i can not buy a American car.
Or i can, but then i pay almost the same for gasoline, but for a liter not 3.7 liter which is a gallon. i would KILL for dirt cheap American gasoline ( that was a metaphor i would of course not kill anyone )

So for good reasons i drive a frugal little Jap hatchback CUZ aside for the fule cost, as i usually say in Denmark buy 1 car,,,,, pay for 2.

så America get off your butt and make some nice stuff that make sense for Europeans and that way level our trade, we do dot refer from buying American stuff CUZ it is American, you guys simple do not make the stuff we like.

 

[Troy Bakel]

In May 2025 the De Minimis Exemption for Chinese goods ends.

The rule will apply to goods imported directly from China, as well as those shipped from other countries – such as England, Sweden, or EU member states – that have not undergone substantial transformation before entering the U.S.

As of today 4-26-25 the US CBP has not defined "substantial transformation".

The US CBP requires carriers transporting De Minimis Exemption packages to maintain a bond to ensure payment of tariffs and duties for such packages found on inspection to be carrying Chinese goods. Carriers are increasing their rates on shipments to the US to cover and maintain this bond.

As far as I can make out from the guidance given small volume vendors in England and the EU by their respective governments; non De Minimis, non Chinese goods must have the current US CBP tariffs and duties paid for in advance by the buyer and remitted to the carrier prior to shipment. This puts the burden of knowing what the tariffs and duties are on the small volume vendor and such vendors are opting out of shipping to America.

 

[Tom T]

I understand what the “tariffs” goal is ( I think)…and that is fair and reasonable trade agreements along with incentivizing a return to American manufacturing.
I’m an old school veteran and back in the early 90s I wore out my old drill and figured I’d make it a point to buy American…boy was I in for a surprise …the nearest I could find to American was black & decker made in Mexico…curious, I started looking at all the other tools and not one was being made here in the USA …
My first thought was if we ever got in another world war type situation, we’d be in trouble…
Fast forward to 2020 when Covid first hit and China decided to turn ships around that were carrying medical supplies and medicines…America didn’t become the great nation it is by being dependent on foreign nations…
On the flip side, a whole lot of people are gonna really feel the pain if we don’t get the trade imbalances worked out quickly

 

[Troy Bakel]

I understand what the “tariffs” goal is ( I think)…and that is fair and reasonable trade agreements along with incentivizing a return to American manufacturing.
I’m an old school veteran and back in the early 90s I wore out my old drill and figured I’d make it a point to buy American…boy was I in for a surprise …the nearest I could find to American was black & decker made in Mexico…curious, I started looking at all the other tools and not one was being made here in the USA …
My first thought was if we ever got in another world war type situation, we’d be in trouble…
Fast forward to 2020 when Covid first hit and China decided to turn ships around that were carrying medical supplies and medicines…America didn’t become the great nation it is by being dependent on foreign nations…
On the flip side, a whole lot of people are gonna really feel the pain if we don’t get the trade imbalances worked out quickly

During WW2 the greatest industrialized country in the world, America, was built by the US Government investing in America.

Then the Federal Government investing our money in our country and in our people became defined as socialism.

And here we are today.

 

[markhooper]

In May 2025 the De Minimis Exemption for Chinese goods ends.

The rule will apply to goods imported directly from China, as well as those shipped from other countries – such as England, Sweden, or EU member states – that have not undergone substantial transformation before entering the U.S.

As of today 4-26-25 the US CBP has not defined "substantial transformation".

The US CBP requires carriers transporting De Minimis Exemption packages to maintain a bond to ensure payment of tariffs and duties for such packages found on inspection to be carrying Chinese goods. Carriers are increasing their rates on shipments to the US to cover and maintain this bond.

As far as I can make out from the guidance given small volume vendors in England and the EU by their respective governments; non De Minimis, non Chinese goods must have the current US CBP tariffs and duties paid for in advance by the buyer and remitted to the carrier prior to shipment. This puts the burden of knowing what the tariffs and duties are on the small volume vendor and such vendors are opting out of shipping to America.

the exemption rule was one of the main points to my question.. you gave a very good and helpful explanation.. so to summarize it, I think you are saying that however the terrifs work, they are basically paid for at the time of sale and whatever company you are buying from takes care of that, so as a customer no matter who ultimately pays the terrifs, it's dealt with up front.. this is very good to hear.. I'd hate anyone to buy something and then get to the point of receiving it and find out they paid for the product and that was the cheapest part..
it's not good to hear that some are just not shipping at basically any price.. but I understand how it could be difficult for a small company to do whatever extra paperwork and forms and stuff.. money aside from the fact..
just for instance if you need a small part and it's only available there and your item is a expensive paper weight without it, I'm sure you might grumble but you'd still prefer to pay even triple the price for a small part of a few dollars that to have a useless paper weight..

 

[markhooper]

I suppose it would also be important with the exemption for small items going away to ask if anyone knows how this affects another section of the forum.. the classified section!!
so just for instance if you have someone in Canada that has a item, used, or like new, however it is not a business, private party.. you know just a regular add..
how do the terrifs affect that? or do they on private items? do they affect private used items?
these are things that probably won't affect me but I think it would be very good for everyone especially if they visit the classified section to know what they are doing..
Mark

 

[markhooper]

Legitimate Q&A regarding how the tariffs affect our sport and/or product availability are always welcome.

I really appreciate this Michael!! although everyone has different opinions and feelings about it, this is exactly what I was wanting and asking for and I was very worried that it would easily get political and then just shut down and locked.. without any basic information and answers..
thank you to all who have contributed factual information!
I really appreciate you! and I hope it can be clean and acceptable and informative just like the video at the beginning..
please if there is any way to clarify this as far as the effects on the classified section,or if it even effects it at all?
Mark

 

[markhooper]

this is something everyone should consider as well.. a few years back I really wanted a attaman ap16 compact.. then it went on clearance sale at pyramid air, but I was worried about being able to get parts if anything was needed.. so I held off..
this all started and continues due to political reasons, you all know..
but the fact is that they are not available as far as I know period..
hopefully this terrifs and especially effects on small companies, depending on how it all plays out, we might see more of what happened to attaman.
Tyler Patner alluded to things being paused
Troy mentioned some small companies are just not shipping..
it's just something everyone needs to be aware of and how to navigate this..
like don't take a trip without a map or something..
Mark

 

[Sawney Bean]

I am sad i can not buy a American car.
Or i can, but then i pay almost the same for gasoline, but for a liter not 3.7 liter which is a gallon. i would KILL for dirt cheap American gasoline ( that was a metaphor i would of course not kill anyone )

So for good reasons i drive a frugal little Jap hatchback CUZ aside for the fule cost, as i usually say in Denmark buy 1 car,,,,, pay for 2.

så America get off your butt and make some nice stuff that make sense for Europeans and that way level our trade, we do dot refer from buying American stuff CUZ it is American, you guys simple do not make the stuff we like.

We have a tough time competing with the much of the rest of the world due to the dollars status as a reserve currency. It makes the value of our currency artificially high and that makes the price of our exports higher than the competition.

There are a lot of positive things that come from having a reserve currency, but it’s a double edged sword.

 

[Peashooter]

I agree.

 

[Troy Bakel]

the exemption rule was one of the main points to my question.. you gave a very good and helpful explanation.. so to summarize it, I think you are saying that however the terrifs work, they are basically paid for at the time of sale and whatever company you are buying from takes care of that, so as a customer no matter who ultimately pays the terrifs, it's dealt with up front.. this is very good to hear.. I'd hate anyone to buy something and then get to the point of receiving it and find out they paid for the product and that was the cheapest part..
it's not good to hear that some are just not shipping at basically any price.. but I understand how it could be difficult for a small company to do whatever extra paperwork and forms and stuff.. money aside from the fact..
just for instance if you need a small part and it's only available there and your item is a expensive paper weight without it, I'm sure you might grumble but you'd still prefer to pay even triple the price for a small part of a few dollars that to have a useless paper weight..

For non De Minimis Exemption purchases, at check-out, you the American customer, will be charged the US CBP required tariff and duties. The vendor will remit both to the carrier who will apply those payments to their CBP bond.

For De Minimis Exemption items, at checkout, the shipping costs should contain the extra money for the carrier's CBP bond.

The catch - if the CBP opens the De Minimis Exemption package and finds a cheap swag item marked "Made in China" then every item in package will be assessed the full tariff for each tariffed item or, if not tariffed, 25 USD for the non tariffed item (the last time I looked). The carrier will bill you the difference and most likely won't release your package for delivery until payment is received.

 

[markhooper]

For non De Minimis Exemption purchases, at check-out, you the American customer, will be charged the US CBP required tariff and duties. The vendor will remit both to the carrier who will apply those payments to their CBP bond.

For De Minimis Exemption items, at checkout, the shipping costs should contain the extra money for the carrier's CBP bond.

The catch - if the CBP opens the De Minimis Exemption package and finds a cheap swag item marked "Made in China" then every item in package will be assessed the full tariff for each tariffed item or, if not tariffed, 25 USD for the non tariffed item (the last time I looked).

as before a great explanation, you sure know things and I'm thankful..
do you know how it affects private party, like the classified section?
Mark

 

[Troy Bakel]

as before a great explanation, you sure know things and I'm thankful..
do you know how it affects private party, like the classified section?
Mark

I have no clue.

My research questions would be:

1. Is my sales price for the used item I am selling you, that is tariffed, acceptable.

2. If the item was made in Italy and shipped to me in Canada and each country has a different US CBP tariff rate for the same type of item ..... which tariff is applicable?!?

3. How would I know how much of the item was made in China?!?

4. And just our luck the case the item comes with is made in China.