I have a real urge to get a Prophet Performance. I have an Impact X Mk2 and love it, so i'm ok with bullpups, so what are the pros & cons compred to the Impact? I,so far, only shoot pellets, so i dont want a slug barrel on a Prophet. What are the pros & cons of PP1 vs PP2 vs PP3 etc?
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Good Day! The prophet P1 comes with a LR22 barrel 1:32 twist that shoots jsb redesign really well, at a good speed as well, 950 fps down to 880 fps. the barrel and redesign pellet were kind of developed to work together. I promise you would not be disappointed!
The P3 has a RPB barrel 1:16 twist which also likes the redesign but at 920fps or slower, but likes slugs also. The P3 has a assisted air valve which makes tuning a bit easier. you can get a LR22 barrel for it as well. so when I'm comparing the 2 guns here it would be with both using the LR22 barrel.
The P3 is more efficient than the P1. The P3 only needs 115 bar to reach 945fps. where as the P1 needs 130-135 bar.
Both guns shoot just the same with LR22 barrel and redesign. I get the same groups. The mora as well with the LR22. The mora only needs 90 to 100 bar with LR22 barrel.
My honest opinion if your just going to shot pellets go for the P1 with the redesign. I have my P1 performance tuned at 130bar and hammer adjusted to get 945fps. SD 1.6 and max of 7. the only modification I have is the dual regulator from RTI. The P1 never lets me down.
I have seen the prophet shooting the redesign at 1040fps. Impressive grouping at a 100 yrds. I find though, I get flyers every 5 or so shots. The gun is pretty hot at 180 bar and hammer turned up to get this speed.
hope this helps
Dyno
The P3 has a RPB barrel 1:16 twist which also likes the redesign but at 920fps or slower, but likes slugs also. The P3 has a assisted air valve which makes tuning a bit easier. you can get a LR22 barrel for it as well. so when I'm comparing the 2 guns here it would be with both using the LR22 barrel.
The P3 is more efficient than the P1. The P3 only needs 115 bar to reach 945fps. where as the P1 needs 130-135 bar.
Both guns shoot just the same with LR22 barrel and redesign. I get the same groups. The mora as well with the LR22. The mora only needs 90 to 100 bar with LR22 barrel.
My honest opinion if your just going to shot pellets go for the P1 with the redesign. I have my P1 performance tuned at 130bar and hammer adjusted to get 945fps. SD 1.6 and max of 7. the only modification I have is the dual regulator from RTI. The P1 never lets me down.
I have seen the prophet shooting the redesign at 1040fps. Impressive grouping at a 100 yrds. I find though, I get flyers every 5 or so shots. The gun is pretty hot at 180 bar and hammer turned up to get this speed.
hope this helps
Dyno
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As they progressed, the internals got quieter.
The one is the smallest in stature, but needs a plenum extension for more power.
The PP2 has a larger plenum, and just a bit quieter than the 1
And the three has the coveted cheek piece and even quieter still.
They’re easy to adjust and the RBP barrels on the 22 and 25 love slugs and pellets.
The one is the smallest in stature, but needs a plenum extension for more power.
The PP2 has a larger plenum, and just a bit quieter than the 1
And the three has the coveted cheek piece and even quieter still.
They’re easy to adjust and the RBP barrels on the 22 and 25 love slugs and pellets.
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BC,
No personal RTI experience but consider Krale (Netherlands) for best deal. Only list P3, for $1544. US. Figure < $50. shipping, no tax but Import Duty of $66.. Hopefully, some day they'll offer Mora. WM
No personal RTI experience but consider Krale (Netherlands) for best deal. Only list P3, for $1544. US. Figure < $50. shipping, no tax but Import Duty of $66.. Hopefully, some day they'll offer Mora. WM
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Thanks everyone, you anwered all my questions and one I forgot to ask about the LR barrel.
This is a great fourm and I love all the help, thanks!
I'm going to take some time and look for a used one, but if it doesn't come along in the near future, then I'll certainly be looking for new.
This is a great fourm and I love all the help, thanks!
I'm going to take some time and look for a used one, but if it doesn't come along in the near future, then I'll certainly be looking for new.
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Good advice here. I have has a P2 and now have a P3 and I have all the barrels so I can go from .177 through .30 including the LR 22 barrel. The P3 is the quietest of the Prophet line and easiest to tune. For me, using the .177 barrel, it is the quietest pesting rig I have and I have settings for high, medium and low power depending on where I am shooting. The RPBs are one of the best barrels for both slugs and pellets as many barrels prefer one or the other.
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Hi BK,
I’ve got two Prophet Performance P1s. I’ve got .177, .22LR, .25LR (2) and .30 barrels.
Do these barrels require any adapters to fit the Mora? The Mora shroud is significantly larger diameter, so I’m thinking something is required to keep them centered in the Mora shroud…?
Thanks,
Ed
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I have a Prophet Performance P1. I bought it whent he P2 was announced. I did not want to be the first kid on the block to get the P2 and have to deal with any growning pains with the new design.
I also got a better deal on the old design and have been very happy with it. I got mine with the 22lr barrel and mirror what BKMahaffey said about it. Amazingly accurate barrel when shooting the redesigns at 1000+fps, and not really picky about other pellets as long as you keep your fps slower more resoanable levels.
Earlier this year I also bought a .25 RPB barrel. It works great in the P1 with both pellets and slugs.
I have been happy enough with the P1 that I have not been tempted to move on to one of the new assisted valve models, so can not really comment on them.
I am kind of curious about the Mora though.
I also got a better deal on the old design and have been very happy with it. I got mine with the 22lr barrel and mirror what BKMahaffey said about it. Amazingly accurate barrel when shooting the redesigns at 1000+fps, and not really picky about other pellets as long as you keep your fps slower more resoanable levels.
Earlier this year I also bought a .25 RPB barrel. It works great in the P1 with both pellets and slugs.
I have been happy enough with the P1 that I have not been tempted to move on to one of the new assisted valve models, so can not really comment on them.
I am kind of curious about the Mora though.
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Im interested in the mora as well but waiting for more user feedback.
I like RTI as a company but just wished they offered model with cocking lever on the right side.
I like RTI as a company but just wished they offered model with cocking lever on the right side.
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According to Rok, the barrels for the P2/P3 will work on the Mora. I never had a P1 to know if the barrels were different, but I asked this of Rok suspecrting that I would eventually want a Mora.
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The main difference in the P1 barrel is a single round port vs a much larger split port. A P1 barrel in a P3 or a Mora would restrict air flow, but the RPB bareel in a P1 works great.
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PP1 / LR was the most accurate rifle I‘ve owned until I got my Thomas. My PP1 Compact is extremely accurate as well, but with 18’s vs MRDs with the LR.
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I've got both a Prophet Compact and a full length Prophet Performance.
Seems that I shoot the compact more than the full length version.
They both have held air for very long periods, without leaking. I originally bought the full length version mostly because they have a couple less o-rings in them to...leak.
One of the reasons that I like the compact, is that to make it nice and quiet, you "don't" need an..."add on" muffler. I put a few Daystate baffles and spring inside of the shroud. Made a very nice addition, plus, like I said, it keeps the gun nice and short, while also making it quieter.
I did, finally buy an FX, MK3, but again, shoot the RTI Compact more often.
Mike
Seems that I shoot the compact more than the full length version.
They both have held air for very long periods, without leaking. I originally bought the full length version mostly because they have a couple less o-rings in them to...leak.
One of the reasons that I like the compact, is that to make it nice and quiet, you "don't" need an..."add on" muffler. I put a few Daystate baffles and spring inside of the shroud. Made a very nice addition, plus, like I said, it keeps the gun nice and short, while also making it quieter.
I did, finally buy an FX, MK3, but again, shoot the RTI Compact more often.
Mike
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Humanity has many "prophets".
All of them lived a short life.
Which one did you have in mind?
All of them lived a short life.
Which one did you have in mind?
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