The $2000 dollar gun.
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Regarding your Daystate or RAW question, I'd go RAW. Unless the new Blackwolf is priced similarly to a RAW then I'd probably go Blackwolf. But that will likely be a long time until available. So just go RAW and enjoy.
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In all my years shooting ... if one does not or has not over time acquired advanced or lets say above average shooting skills, spending big money on shooting gear only serves ones own self vision of being able to shoot better 
Which in retrospect can be argued that if one has the skills to be a great marksman, it might be his/her equipment & therefor higher grade gear might just be the missing puzzle piece ... Huh ???
These conversations can be worded 1000 different ways but all end with "You Can't Buy" into being a better marksmen / shot / competitor etc ....
Which in retrospect can be argued that if one has the skills to be a great marksman, it might be his/her equipment & therefor higher grade gear might just be the missing puzzle piece ... Huh ???
These conversations can be worded 1000 different ways but all end with "You Can't Buy" into being a better marksmen / shot / competitor etc ....
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So if a person can’t shoot up to your standards of marksmanship they should stick to guns they can get at Tractor Supply.In all my years shooting ... if one does not or has not over time acquired advanced or lets say above average shooting skills, spending big money on shooting gear only serves ones own self vision of being able to shoot better
Which in retrospect can be argued that if one has the skills to be a great marksman, it might be his/her equipment & therefor higher grade gear might just be the missing puzzle piece ... Huh ???
These conversations can be worded 1000 different ways but all end with "You Can't Buy" into being a better marksmen / shot / competitor etc ....
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Not at all ... Vanity and possessing really nice stuff is what life's all about for many .... A Very sizeable contingent of those purchasing high end air guns relies upon those who just gotta own & try it then selling it at a loss, sometime a very sizeable loss which is great for buyers in the lightly used market.
I like your sarcasm, is shows where your heads at taking a simple statement and then blowing it way out of proportion. As my standards have absolutely ZERO to do with this conversation. Please Troll elsewhere
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No blackdog I believe he was saying just the opposite of that. Troll like wander , or go. It Don't matter it was a miss understanding. Motorhead not all can interpret, or understand certain meanings , but please don't be rude to a person who is loving the same enjoyment of airguns like we do.
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I have an acquired taste of marksmanship , and the ability to shoot outstanding , and amazing quality shots with what I have available.
Even if I ventured into the used market of higher quality It would be where I could replace that interchangeable barrel with a new one in fact making the well taken care of new again. There are so many variables that come together for the perfect shot I have even seen the great competitors use eye drops of a special variety to accomplish a gain over there opponent but the barrel , and the pellet are the main components of the material accuracy. The human element can be molded by practice. Being kind to others is a great quality. Patience is not only a great virtue it is the parent of all others.
Even if I ventured into the used market of higher quality It would be where I could replace that interchangeable barrel with a new one in fact making the well taken care of new again. There are so many variables that come together for the perfect shot I have even seen the great competitors use eye drops of a special variety to accomplish a gain over there opponent but the barrel , and the pellet are the main components of the material accuracy. The human element can be molded by practice. Being kind to others is a great quality. Patience is not only a great virtue it is the parent of all others.
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Well, originally it was a group of people posting on USENET back around 1990. Maybe a bit earlier.
They had a "game" where they would post something in a newsgroup and ratio the number of words posted to the number of responses. The all time winner was 3 words and 1271 responses. "Lambs wool yarn" in a knitting group.
It was queried one day "so what are you going to do today?"
The answer "Trolling for little fishies"
The "game" became known as trolling and the players "trolls"
I hope that helps.
-- Matt
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Hey OldVet had to analyze your first sentence a half dozen passes through brain… haa hoo..
I think I can relate. Always good with a rifle, was introduced to NRA small bore silhouette about 10 years ago. No better than fair it led to 22lr benchrest and then 1000yard f class. I was still amongst the working and not so free with spending as now.
So my Sako Quad silhouette gun was my designated benchrest gun. Only a Leupold 6.5-20 and eventual change to a Lilja
barrel. The club only had 15 shot matches, I expected a 150.
F-Class and F-TR were shot with a pair of Savages by the same name.
If competing today custom 22lr and F-TR
Mike
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Someone wanting a target rifle of good quality and not break the bank....$2k budget. What id do is look at the used market for a RAW TM1000 in .177 or place a wanted add for the same rifle.You might be surprised on the feedback you get. Typically you can expect to pay about $1500 for a good used RAW. From there I'd get a decent scope in the $300-$400 range. Perhaps some Athlon model. Lastly I'd get a used air tank and find somewhere to fill it. That should put you probably a little over 2k. Definitely don't be afraid to buy used rifles but make sure you are dealing with a good person and have a good ole fashion phone conversation with them to get a good feel for the person. Most Airgunners would do that no problem to insure a good transaction.
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Your Fairly close to AOA (at least close compared to me ) Maybe a road trip is in order ? Even if a motel is required for a night .
I once told my wife their was a gun i would like to hold b4 i buy but it was at AOA (3 night stays out and 3 night back ) and she replyed "so , you like to drive !"
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I’ve not shot the Wildcat but glad it’s working good for you.
I don’t mind the Cricket’s cocking smoothness. Seems smooth enough, maybe from so many cycles.My foremost concern is accuracy and the Cricket has that in spades.
The trigger is nice, better than the Impact, IMO but it did need a simple Ernest Rowe mod to get rid of 2nd stage creep.
Anyway, it’s good for me, but to each his own.
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Actually My cricket was the mini carbine, Don't know if its the same as yours but, yes, it's a fine airgun.
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leshiy 2.
It's really well made. Modular and can be built to whatever your style of play is. Can be tinkered with or left alone. Plenty of power, accuracy etc. I wasted good time and $ figuring this out for myself.
It's really well made. Modular and can be built to whatever your style of play is. Can be tinkered with or left alone. Plenty of power, accuracy etc. I wasted good time and $ figuring this out for myself.
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If you are still considering the RAW and don’t mind left side cocking (some like it for the bench) Utah Air still has a few for $1350.
utahairguns.com
RAW HM1000XLRT L/H Action Black Laminate .22 Airgun **OPEN BOX** - Utah Airguns
Included in this Airgun Package:
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There is a guy who just popped up in pcp Airgun sectio who has a RAW 1000x and scope he wants to sell, less than 50 pellets through it. He’s in the wrong forum, but his posting is quite recent.
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Acquiring better shooting skills has probably figured into only about 5% of my gun purchases over the years, if that. These days 90% of the guns I buy are simply for my own entertainment. I like to shoot and I like cool guns, but I've largely given up on the pursuit of the ultimate in accuracy. IMO, continually pursuing sub-MOA accuracy really only makes sense for competition. Minute of angle really is more than adequate for everything else and I'm largely satisfied if my PCP's and rimfires can shoot MOA at 50 yards and my bolt action centerfires can do it at 100 yards.In all my years shooting ... if one does not or has not over time acquired advanced or lets say above average shooting skills, spending big money on shooting gear only serves ones own self vision of being able to shoot better
Which in retrospect can be argued that if one has the skills to be a great marksman, it might be his/her equipment & therefor higher grade gear might just be the missing puzzle piece ... Huh ???
These conversations can be worded 1000 different ways but all end with "You Can't Buy" into being a better marksmen / shot / competitor etc ....
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Same here , I’m just enjoying the gadgetry of the whole thing. That said for personal satisfaction getting the best out of each gun is the challenge part. I have competed somewhat successfully in 2 pb disciplines where ultimate accuracy matters. And hope to again , however this will in all probability not be with air. I know of no air specific matches close enough to me
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