The $2000 dollar gun.

Don’t spend the 2000 because the upper priced air rifles are just not worth it. Get yourself a marauder or any sea air rifle .AEA they are the leader and error gun advancements. They make some beautiful air rifles. You should check them out. And get yourself a compressor with the extra cash you save. Or maybe get yourself two rifles and a compressor. They’re so-called top notch high money stuff doesn’t shoot any better
"AEA they are the leader and error gun advancements"

This statement, with typo, is accurate. I have never had products with as many errors in design as the three AEA guns that unfortunately passed through my hands (in my effort to find one that could get through a couple of magazines without jamming or breaking). If you have to get something from this company get the most simple thing they make and shoot it under its maximum power.
 
I'd either get a RAW from Martin Rutterford or a Skout
The RAW from Martin because it is a solid tank of a rifle. No need to adjust or tune if you ask Martin to set it up and you are good to go. I would go to the source for this rifle. Owned one for a decade and still going strong
The Skout because it is an amazing shooting platform. Able to change barrels in minutes, easily to tune, and has a wonderful staff to help to when help is needed. Every few weeks, Skout is innovating something new to improve. They are out in the fields and on the benchrest line listening to what people have to say and incorporate it into their improvements. Best new company on the airgun scene.
if electronic are not your thing..go RAW
Yes Nate on airgun channel says he loves his Skout.
 
# 1 Depends on what style of gun you like to hold and shoot . Do you like the FX look ? Maybe the Daystate Huntsman look ? #2 Where are you shooting ? basement ? , back yard (and how close is the neighbor ? ) #3 You can shoot any style gun at targets , bench ,freehand, bucket and sticks #4 what type targets , cans , bottle caps , very small dots on paper ? #4 Power versus distance ?
Just something to think about .
I have a 45 ft range in my back yard lol but I live in the deserts of Tucson Az , so the sky is the limit.
Actually the sky is mostly blue , and very dang hot . Got desert range at 150 yards big dirt hill for back catch.
 
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Hi gendoc ,
I was looking up this Hw100 finally , and noticed that the airgun Depot sellers it as a Beeman , but then states manufacturer is weihrauch
So this is Greman ?
for better results and product information, go to Airguns of Arizona (AOA). Yes German 👍
 
I am like you in the fact the hunting was my biggest passion but as I grew into my senior years I choose not to kill natures creations I am a devote target shooter and have gone through quite a few guns in pursuit of accuracy . The one gun that always amazes me is my Vulcan 3 22 cal shooting pellets. I think that any of the brands with the CZ barrels have potential for match grade competition accuracy. To the point that is I go to a competition and see Raws or Thomas on the bench I will have a dont count me out attitude . I have shot several 5 shot groups at 35 yards that when I stick a pellet back into the hole .the completely fills the hole . Its hard to get more accurate than that
 
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I am like you in the fact the hunting was my biggest passion but as I grew into my senior years I choose not to kill natures creations I am a devote target shooter and have gone through quite a few guns in pursuit of accuracy . The one gun that always amazes me is my Vulcan 3 22 cal shooting pellets. I think that any of the brands with the CZ barrels have potential for match grade competition accuracy. To the point that is I go to a competition and see Raws or Thomas on the bench I will have a dont count me out attitude . I have shot several 5 shot groups at 35 yards that when I stick a pellet back into the hole .the completely fills the hole . Its hard to get more accurate than that
I seen JC do that in one of his reviews on Airgun Dectives. I wish I could remember which video that was , but all 5 through the perfect same little hole.
 
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You have a very good question OldVet. I did what you are thinking recently. I wanted something in .22, quality and left-handed or ambidextrous. I settled on a Daystate Wolverine R. It is a great gun and accurate BUT it is too heavy for me. I wish there was a shop close where I could look over and handle different models. Just saying I would have looked at buying a little different.
Recently someone told me to handle any gun I'm going to buy before I buy it ,band I know it's a cheap rifle , but I learned that lesson as well with a Beeman Chief I bought it , because it was Beeman , and it was heavy , and loud with no way to ad a Moderator. Had to get rid of it could not shoot it in my back yard. I did love the perfect , and most beautiful wood stock though.
 
I haven't read the entire thread, but presumably someone asked if you already have a scope and how you intend to aim whatever rifle you buy?
I just ordered my first FFP 5 x 30 x 56 it's on the way , but it's a very inexpensive Spina scope. After I learn about the rifles I suppose I'll study up on the scopes. I tell you the beautiful air rifle I have ever seen is the Brocock Safari Sniper XL.
 
Hi Steve.

It sounds like you can get to 150Y easily with your Zelos using those slugs. I've moved onto slugs for all my 48 fpe and up airguns.

Pellets, I personally like to keep them well within 100Y and nowadays would rather just use them in my 30 fpe and less guns.

A pcp I really enjoy for inside 50Y, well mostly shooting at reactive and closer in steel, is another Steyr which is my LGB1 Biathlon trainer in .177. It uses little 5 round stick mags and is only 6 fpe. The way it cocks is very unique and fast, faster than any non semi repeater I've shot so far. It's also very precise though not as precise as my Thomas's. Very reliable as well, great ergos, great trigger, lightweight, and gets 100 shots per fill. Such a neat and high quality gun which I never regretted buying!

When camping I was hitting flies on the rocks across the stream at 27Y with it and perhaps the most fun was trying to guess the wind right because that's the main challenge with 6 fpe.
I've shot this gun at 100Y, lol, and I can hit small objects as long as the wind is down but that was experimental and I've only done this a few times since I bought it more than a decade ago.

Being a semi the Steyr ProX is a tad more fun on steel.

The Thomas's are for FT and UFT. Purple Reign as I named it in rifle form is at 19.5 fpe and in pistol form at 11.5 fpe I named the Purp/perp, these/this are the same gun that I convert over.
SURELY with the walnut stock is for UFT or Benchrest and is at 48.5 fpe currently using 22 cal 32.3 grain Altaros slugs.

All of these are what I consider fairly specialized and high quality though a bit pricey. The funny thing is I'd sell all of them, or I should say each of them, if I thought I could get most of my money out of them to put that into replacing them with even higher realms of utility and hottness in the next best thing that suited my styles of what guns trip my trigger the most!
LGB1 on top and ProX on bottom.
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I still after all this time go back , and look at these pics.😁
 
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Yeah, I have (4) RAW HM1000x’s now, so that’s $7.5K+ on just the guns 🫣.
Because they’re a simple platform, I enjoy modding them as I please, making them the best they can be.

-> If I couldn’t get 1 MOA or better (25%/50% of the time) at 50/100 yards, I would consider my Time/$$$/Efforts wasted 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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I still want a raw the most , and I love to look back at these pics I like them all too.
 
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Well guys finally re read the whole post. I now own a Tuxing model TXED012 Twin cylinder Compressor , and have a Umarex Guantlet 2 SL on the way to play with untill I get my Zelos back together. I have a Spina FFP on the way. A Chronograph on the way. A shooting rest , and putting a fill station together on the way as well.
Yep I dove in the Rabbit hole head first , got 4 extra mags for the Guantlet on the way as well
I think the Compressor , and the 4,500 psi fill on the SL will be a perfect match. The rabbit hole has no bottom. Is it hobby , or an obsession , or both lol. Thanks for all the cool stuff I learned on this post Brother Of Airguns BOA .
 
I was kinda in this position a few months ago and got an impact m3. Definitely not the most popular air rifle as FX seems to be split between those who love them and those who don’t.

I love mine. I have enough money to buy another (and a currently narrowing down my choices) so I don’t have much to compare it to. I’m thinking a Ghost or Edgun may be my next purchase, but the Impact is a GREAT gun.

Mine has been incredibly reliable, accurate, and FUN and I really have nothing but positive things to say about it. I got it for iguana control and it is super effective. It is a .22 compact and has been amazing straight from the get go. I retuned it to my liking and I haven’t had one issue with it, just learning experiences. I can only vouch for this rifle, but it’s perfect for my needs.

I was kinda in this position a few months ago and got an impact m3. Definitely not the most popular air rifle as FX seems to be split between those who love them and those who don’t.

I love mine. I have enough money to buy another (and a currently narrowing down my choices) so I don’t have much to compare it to. I’m thinking a Ghost or Edgun may be my next purchase, but the Impact is a GREAT gun.

Mine has been incredibly reliable, accurate, and FUN and I really have nothing but positive things to say about it. I got it for iguana control and it is super effective. It is a .22 compact and has been amazing straight from the get go. I retuned it to my liking and I haven’t had one issue with it, just learning experiences. I can only vouch for this rifle, but it’s perfect for my needs.
Are you in SWFL or Southeast FL?
 
Answering to the OP, after browsing through some of replies and pages.
The very short answer: a secondhand Evol
The long answer: everybody is different, is differently build, has different needs and different uses.
Some of my experiences:
Edgun r3 and r3m very simple, very light, single shots were best
Edgun R5: light, short, quiet, not a great trigger, strudy
Shinsung career 707: simple, raw, really old fashioned, no reg, accurate but only for few shots
Kalibrgun: sturdy, bit heavy, not as nice as the rest
Daystate: English, originally built on 12 fpe platforms, pretty but not as sturdy as the rest
Taipan: super quality, super sturdy, very nice trigger for a bullpub, bit heavy
Theoben: super sturdy, old fashioned hence less powerfull than modern stuff unless you do all the modern mods (can be done if you are patient, handy, and know where to get it all) I gave up on these
Raw: very good, build like a tank, unfortunately as heavy as a tank too
Evol: super quality, super trigger, super sturdy, good weight, configurable to your LOP. I have three now: bought the first one at special order and configuration, then bought two secondhand for about 1200 each. I have the older version (short and long rail) but without renewed lever action ( old simple one works fine) and without externally adjustable reg (not needed, just something else to go wrong, probably put in there to comply with general market demand, but who cares once its set)
also, I have found everybody goes thru a journey before they know what fits them…. So buying one and sticking with that is somewhat utopic…
 
Answering to the OP, after browsing through some of replies and pages.
The very short answer: a secondhand Evol
The long answer: everybody is different, is differently build, has different needs and different uses.
Some of my experiences:
Edgun r3 and r3m very simple, very light, single shots were best
Edgun R5: light, short, quiet, not a great trigger, strudy
Shinsung career 707: simple, raw, really old fashioned, no reg, accurate but only for few shots
Kalibrgun: sturdy, bit heavy, not as nice as the rest
Daystate: English, originally built on 12 fpe platforms, pretty but not as sturdy as the rest
Taipan: super quality, super sturdy, very nice trigger for a bullpub, bit heavy
Theoben: super sturdy, old fashioned hence less powerfull than modern stuff unless you do all the modern mods (can be done if you are patient, handy, and know where to get it all) I gave up on these
Raw: very good, build like a tank, unfortunately as heavy as a tank too
Evol: super quality, super trigger, super sturdy, good weight, configurable to your LOP. I have three now: bought the first one at special order and configuration, then bought two secondhand for about 1200 each. I have the older version (short and long rail) but without renewed lever action ( old simple one works fine) and without externally adjustable reg (not needed, just something else to go wrong, probably put in there to comply with general market demand, but who cares once its set)
also, I have found everybody goes thru a journey before they know what fits them…. So buying one and sticking with that is somewhat utopic…
Thanks for the reply I like it very much , and agree with you you. I live on a fixed income , and will probably never have enough money to figure out what suits me before I go , so hence the post. I do love The Raw , and the Taipan , and bullpups are just cool because of the long barrel in short package.
I only target shoot for my own satisfaction. It's just a great feeling to hit the bullseye 5 times in a row
I also believe it helps me relax , and get all that tension out like when I play guitar.