The Daystate LC110 Compressor report

[pmg]

Well heck while I’m at it might as well ask another question. Where are you guys using your daystates, indoors or out in the garage? I live in a nothern climate and concerned about using it out in the garage then having to move it into the house in the winter to prevent any residual moisture even though you go to great lengths to get rid of it from freezing. I’m thinking that if you had it indoors that conditioned air would be the best as drier air going in would result having less moisture to capture. I’m trying to get this figured out before I take the big plunge after I win the mega millions drawing

 

[kahr40]

The one I bought last month says it draws 14.5 amps. I use it on a 110v 15amp breaker in the garage with no problems. Picture below.

FYI Picture of the auto shut off. Might be an easy up grade for those that don't have one. Don't know how it is wired though.

 

[Centercut]

Been using the LC110 for a couple weeks now. Still working great. Added a few items.

1. Run time meter. Mine didn’t come with one. 

2. Added the “gold” filter with 13x Zeolite molecular sieve sandwiched between two one inch cotton tampons. 

Installed 90 degree "elbow" with male foster, and pressure hose with 9000 psi working pressure - 1600 bar burst pressure - do the math on that one! FYI, the hose that is supplied with the compressor has a 1750 bar minimum burst pressure - 25,381 psi!

Tie wrapped gold filter to compressor cage that covers the drive belt. Inlet lower than outlet.

Used gold filter setup from my two cylinder Tuxing. Installed elbow fitting that came with compressor into the "T" fitting along with the gage and the outlet of the gold filter.

3. Inserted 5 inch section of cotton tampon from gold filter spares into vent chamber under the pressure gage. It fits very snug. Five inches seems correct since you don’t want to cover the outlet port, and it only goes so far into the tube because of inlet “blade” at the bottom. This gives a small plenum at the bottom for the moisture to collect (and be vented periodically while filling), and doesn't block the outlet port, since there is also a small plenum above the cotton tampon. 

 

[TitanFlyer]

So @Centercut, that hoop in the middle is a perfect spot to put a gold filter.. fits perfectly. Have you looked at that as an option?

 

[Centercut]

@titanflyer, damn, you’re right about that. Great idea. I’m going to do that. Thanks! +1 to you.

 

[mark2cars]

Guys thank you for all this great info !!! I am on the edge about buying a compressor. I have been using nitrogen and am pleased with it, however it's time to refill the bottle so would be a good time to switch. I live in far west Texas and would have to be my own service tech and that makes me a little nervous !

 

[TitanFlyer]

Unless you live within driving distance of AoA, we are all our own service tech's. Buy something that has a good rep and hope for the best. I really thought hard about going with Nitrogen as well.

 

[Technoman]

Hey Mark,

Learn how to shoot the 1701p Yet ? LOL. I bought the 110 from AOA a few months back. I did get the 4 stage version but for our use I'll bet there is no real difference if you got the 3. This is a compressor that if you added the Coltri filter you could use it for breathing air. We are talking about a compressor that probably could be used at 100% duty and survive for years. No comparison to a cheap imported piece of crap that is beating itself to death the minute you plug it in. It's in a different league. The water separator works quite well but added help for me was Joe B's Alpha I took off my Shoebox. I've seen what compressed air can do when unleashed and there is not way I'm trusting anything that's not quality at 4500 PSI. The cheap imported hour meter is perfect and a great addition. I'm not sure I'll be adding any tampons though. I'm sure this compressor won't need rebuilding while I'm still around ! 

Cheers,Scott

 

[18.13]

Here's the filter I put on mine after a couple of scares from the the one I bought from a reputable dealer in AZ

 

[Centercut]

On @titanflyer suggestion, I moved the “gold” filter from where I had it tie wrapped to the front to the existing mount where I think Coltri installs their own filter. 

 

[sonny]

Dang Centercut, that's a nice rig. What did that set you back?

 

[Centercut]

I bought it used here on AGN classifieds for $1750 shipped. The add-ons like the gold filter I already had from my previous two cylinder Tuxing compressor project. 

 

[sonny]

very nice!

 

[bubblerboy64]

How long would you estimate it would take to fill a 75 cu ft tank from 250 bar to 300 bar with this machine ?

 

[Centercut]

About ten minutes from around 230 to 310 bar. 

 

[bubblerboy64]

Mine takes twice that. I've been checking for leaks and problems haven't found any. Don't know what to think. I'm going to just keep running the thing time isn't a problem as long as it gets there and NOTHING BREAKS

 

[bubblerboy64]

Mine takes twice that. I've been checking for leaks and problems haven't found any. Don't know what to think. I'm going to just keep running the thing time isn't a problem as long as it gets there and NOTHING BREAKS

I ran mine today and it did better. Perhaps there is a break in period? This unit is not the unit the larger more expensive compressors are but its probably all any one of us needs for our own individual use. Like most every thing else to get 20% better you would have to pay twice the money. The only real advantage to the 220 volt unit is it apparently is considerably faster. If you are filling a tank every couple weeks it likely not justified. The cheaper ones might be ok but with this one you don't have to be concerned with water cooling. A good middle of the road option.

 

[Humdinger]

I just got a new LC110 this week. The compressor topped off an Omega 75cf tank and my feeling about it is all positive. It is quieter running than anything I’ve used before. It is located in a crawl space and it runs slightly warmer than my previous Bauer 220V. It also produces a slight smell when running but probably it’s from break in and new paint needing to cure. It tripped breakers on 2 different 15 amp home circuits as it approached 310 bar before the auto shutoff activated. I recommend using it on a 20 amp breaker circuit if you have one. available. The compressor is mounted on a lawn cart in the crawl space under my house.. I installed a 20 amp outlet next to the compressor using a 5' of 12G Romex connected to the 20 amp washer outlet. It eliminates the need to use extension cords to reach other 20 amp outlets and doesn't trip the breaker now. In his AEAC review Steve Scialli connected a LC110 to a long extension cord which typically has 16 gauge wire. It was used to film the compressor review in his yard. It is inadvisable to run any type of air compressor on an extension cord which has less than 12 gauge wire and is longer than 25'. Contractors know this will bog down a compressor due to amp draw overheating typical light duty extension cords.

 

[Centercut]

@humdinger, The only explanation I can think of is that the 4 stage LC110 draws slightly less current than the 3 stage. From what I remember, Steve's unit tested on AEAC was a 4 stage unit. @kahr40 unit above photo shows 14.5 amps, whereas mine shows 15.2 amps on the label plate. Enough difference to trip a breaker that is close to the limit.

 

[remnar]

Congrats Mike, I didn't realize you'd picked up a LC110. I have the same compressor, 4-stage version with about 2 hrs run time so far. Same experience... smooth, quiet and fast.

Since the issues of reliability and longevity have been raised in other threads, I just wanted to share something I came across. When I first received mine, I spent a lot of time reading in dive forums because I was researching filtration and whatnot. One thread I was reading caught my attention so here's the quote:

"Rust and corrosion form when the system is not purged and run without pressure to cool and eliminate moisture. There are two main causes of compressor malfunctions --
1st is not running the compressor with no load after filling at high pressure to cool the cylinders and drain the high pressure water saturated air.
2nd Is not running the compressor at least once a month to warm it up and keep it lubricated and "putting it away hot"
Corrosion and oxidation occur when you don't use the compressor enough. I have had compressors run over 2000 hours with only oil changes every 75-100 hours, but they were run 10 to 20 hours every week.
Take a shot guys!!!
Jim Shelden "

I also read posts in those forums by guys who bought used compressors that had sat for months on end without use and ended up having to do minor rebuilds. Since reading the former, I changed my method of filling my tanks. At 4400-4500psi, I close the tank valve, open the purge valve on the tower and let it run at least 2-3 minutes with no load. Like a cool down walk after a 3 mile jog, then shut it off. I also turn it on and run it at least every 2 weeks, even if I don't need to fill my tank. I just fire it up and run it with no load for about 5 minutes, just to get the compressor oil flowing through all the guts. 

I'm sure many here already know this but for me it was news and rings of common sense so I'm tossing it out there.

cheers

This information makes a great deal of sense to me. Thank you. I have been running my compressor every other week, to fill my tanks, and will now be running it for a few minutes each week just to keep the juices flowing.