The horror! A bullpup without a side cocking lever!!

[rangur1]

AHH... The Taipan veteran! For me, the long version. Rugged, powerful, versatile, most importantly , affordable for a top teir gun. Easy to work on. I can pull the reg, adjust it and re assemble the gun in 25 minutes. Have the hammer spring adjuster and lower it to 20 FPE to adjust reg and heavy spring to 70 FPE. shoots pellets and slugs well with factory barrel made of steel. It's rugged simplicity is a real strength. That's it's appeal. The weight and cocking lever placement are it's downsides. Now this gun will not appeal to some, that's ok. I love the taipan, but if they designed the same awesome working cocking lever forward by the trigger, I would love it further. But even as it is, I'll never part with mine. But I have complete understanding why others would insist on certain structural / operating designs. One is spending big time bucks on these guns, so there needs to be a line that is met for the buyer, and each buyer sets that for themselves, and none are wrong.

 

[L.Leon]

It's funny, but "those" that are displaying animosity have not really commented on this thread. I'm actually surprised as there is at least one Super Troll that does this as I noted previously.

Good point, because no one was displaying “animosity”. And how could they do so if they “have not really commented”? Those accusations came from someone defending their own choice of the Veteran… Others were just expressing their opinions on rear cocking being a non starter. Either way a non issue, because we buy what we like.

 

[intenseaty22]

I don't have to jump out of a plane, without a parachute to know it's not a great idea.....

If rear cocking handles is so great, then we would not have any guns that designed there's to be up front.

So here is the thing. And even though I am quoting Harv here, this goes to the collective, or most of y'all commenting on this thread. The reason that I chose to point this out in this thread/video is that I have seen folk that actually have gone out of their way to trash the Taipan simply because they despise the rear cocking lever.

I am not saying that the rear cocking lever is the Greatest thing. My point is, and I see that there are a lot out there that get it, is that the Vet is in fact a phenomenal Airgun that happens to still be rear cocking. It brings a lot to the table, so much so, that the rear cocking thing is not a dealbreaker, for me. I was actually one of those paying that they came out with Taipan 3.0 with a side cocking lever, but over time I have actually changed my opinion. I truly like the current configuration. Perhaps they do change it in the near future, and perhaps I will prefer whatever they come up with, will see.

So, to your point Harv, I can agree with your statement, because for me, it's not about defending it and thinking it is the most glorious thing. For me is about Trolling the Trolls and sharing knowledge.

 

[L.Leon]

@intenseaty22, who exactly is “trashing” and “despising” Taipans? Unfortunate choice of words on your part. Again an example of someone (yourself) who loves the platform. Disparaging those who don’t? Some simply don’t like rear cockers. Why not let it be? The market gets the final say.

 

[intenseaty22]

@intenseaty22, who exactly is “trashing” and “despising” Taipans? Unfortunate choice of words on your part. Again an example of someone (yourself) who loves the platform. Disparaging those who don’t? Some simply don’t like rear cockers. Why not let it be? The market gets the final say

I prefer not to say who. Unfortunate that you don’t understand my point. I’m NOT disparaging anyone! But I am saying, that there is, without any doubt such people that do. At the end of the day, this is not an argument for me because we are talking about toys and opinions here. My opinion isn’t better than anyone’s. But I will not have anyone twist my words, or attack my character.

 

[Nomadic Pirate 66]

Several years back I was planning to get a Veteran long in .25,......plan was, send it to Motohead to cut the trigger linkage, bring back the rail/trigger unit to the action and make a new shroud that matched the longer exposed barrel.
Then, I would work on the stock to make the very first one Veteran Mini-Carbine

It's a project that I actually would like to do, maybe one day, sure it would be fun

 

[L.Leon]

@intenseaty22, what part of the market speaks don’t you get? It’s not personal, it’s business…

 

[L.Leon]

@intenseaty22, just “quoting” your words. NOT “twisting” anything. Or, and again I quote “attacking” your “character”. Your choice of words “is” unfortunate at the least.

 

[Franklink]

I'm privileged to have spent time shooting some of the best airguns that can be had.

i own three Veterans. (Rear cocking and all).

Make of that what you will.

 

[boscoebrea]

Choice is a freedom.My choice is never to have a right-handed cocking lever in my ear.Thank goodness I have other choices.

 

[Franklink]

Choice is a freedom.My choice is never to have a right-handed cocking lever in my ear.That goodness I have other choices.

You just pointed out another feature of the platform. Swappable side lever for the lefty's.

(Mutant video but also applies to the Vet)

 

[Bulletbob]

I really like the looks of that Daystate. If I was young and had a job I could see my self with one of those

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

My original point is that most people who "trash" or say they "dont like" (the latter being a politically correct version of "trash") have not even shot one.


All I see here is people pointing fingers and playing semantics when in fact everyone in this thread is doing the exact same thing , THE EXACT SAME! from both sides of the table. Give it a rest already. I replied here with much restraint as I said I wouldn't partake in the discussion anymore but I have been reading the posts and its just A pointing fingers at B while crying about B pointing fingers at A while B cries about A pointing fingers at B.

 

[corny]

If and when taipan come out with a side cocking lever, nobody will go through the trouble of removing it. Can bet on that…

Just because a gun is perfect in every other way…doesn’t mean everybody should love it.

And just because some ppl refuse to buy it because it has rear cocking lever, doesn't mean they are saying it’s a piece of garbage.

It simply means they aren’t willing to throw up the cash for that lever design.

It’s also silly to start the OP by making reference to this topic….and cry a river when ppl state they wouldn’t touch it because of the lever design.

 

[Franklink]

I have a son (my little shooting buddy Colben that I mention from time to time here on AGN) that absolutely refuses to try popcorn. It's not that he doesn't like it, but he's never even been willing to try it. His older sister meanwhile, LOVES popcorn and makes it a couple times a week. So we'll go to the movies as a family and the rest of us chowing down on popcorn or just at home and eating a batch that his older sister made, and little Colben just sits there and refuses to partake. I always feel bad for him for missing out, out of nothing but sheer stubbornness, especially because he likes other salty snacks and would probably enjoy popcorn too.

I guess the thought process that rules how I live my life has always been something like the old saying of "I'll try anything once," (as long as it isn't against the law or my morals). And I just can't wrap my brain around people who aren't willing to try something simply because they don't think they'll like it. It gets even more confusing for me when those same non-experimenting people jump in the discussion at every opportunity to talk about how big of a negative this thing is that they've never tried. Oh, oh, "but we've tried other PCPs." And Colben has also tried other salty snacks, but he has no idea how popcorn tastes.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I typically can't help commenting on these discussions about the rear-cocking Veteran because I want others to at least consider experiencing how good they are, rather than be put off by those who have already made up their minds based on ABSOLUTELY ZERO personal experiences.

I also try to get Colben to try popcorn every time we have it. If he ever tries it and decides he doesn't like it I'll drop the issue. (oh, and the 9 year old has seemingly wisdom beyond his years because I've never heard him tell people or try to convince them about how he doesn't like the taste of popcorn).

 

[L.Leon]

For me the rear cocking is a non starter no matter how good the rest of the gun. In none of my posts, or other posters here. Have I read anyone trying to “dissuade others from buying one”. The popcorn analogy is flawed. My young nephew loved French fries, but didn’t like potatoes?! The OP title the thread, “The Horror…” I know that I, and no one else posted such negatives about the platform. Just our personal preferences. I Don’t have to try it to know I don’t like the ergonomics of rear cocking.

 

[Franklink]

The popcorn analogy is flawed. My young nephew loved French fries, but didn’t like potatoes?!

Sounds like maybe your nephew had actually tried the potatoes as potatoes to know he only liked them as French fries.....

The point with the analogy is that Colben will never know if he likes popcorn or even prefers it as his favorite salty snack if he forever refuses to try popcorn.

The OP title the thread, “The Horror…” I know that I, and no one else posted such negatives about the platform. Just our personal preferences. I Don’t have to try it to know I don’t like the ergonomics of rear cocking.

I took the wording of "The Horror" as the OP being intentionally facetious about the attitude of the Never-Taipan'ers like yourself.

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

We could just settle this once and for all. Get everyone together. Taipaners on one team, never taipaners on the other team (equal amount on both teams of course) and shoot some targets for score. That would settle it all too quickly

Great point on the trying of the potatoes @Franklink

 

[Franklink]

It's unfortunate that shipping costs are so ridiculous and that @L.Leon and I basically live on opposite sides of the country. Otherwise I'd ship him one of mine and he could give it a spin for a couple weeks to see what he thinks, without him needing to drop the money on his own. There's also the fear of a broken stock in the mail.....

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

It's unfortunate that shipping costs are so ridiculous and that @L.Leon and I basically live on opposite sides of the country. Otherwise I'd ship him one of mine and he could give it a spin for a couple weeks to see what he thinks, without him needing to drop the money on his own. There's also the fear of a broken stock in the mail.....

I am not too far from him , only right in CT. I would lend mine out as well. A few of us here in ct are open to do that, thats how another member here got the taipan bite and sold off everything he owned and bought 3 , a .177 compact, .22 standard, and .25 long within a week of shooting one.