The NEW Daystate Alpha Wolf Safari Edition!
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Me either, it's a nice looking rifle, one day when I tire of the Redwolf and the Ghost that just arrived.
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Does the Safari have different electronic hardware? Or is it just the new valve and software?
Wondering if upgrading an older rifle with the new valve and software will equal the Safari performance.
Wondering if upgrading an older rifle with the new valve and software will equal the Safari performance.
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Kind regards,
Atlas
You are correct, new valve and software upgrades the platform, roughly 15% in power and more efficient if my memory serves me well, landing near 105fpe on the top end. That is an astronomical leap in performance, not merely a 1% refinement in design. I really liked the gun and I had the privilege to test it prelaunch.
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Atlas
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Did you have to update your software when you changed the valve.The upgraded valve is like a half an hour job and can be done at homeI updated my DW .177 HP months ago - I have been testing the new valve for Daystate
In my case it added 40-50 FPS to my existing setups, so I was able to turn down the regulator pressure to get back to the wanted velocity, while using less air and thereby a better shot count
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I just ordered a valve that will be arriving tomorrow. I have the latest firmware(136) but AOA gave me two .xml files that they said I should install. They are attached. I am using a 23" Alpha Wolf .177. The names of the files I received. DW-FAC-V2_UserTables.xml and DW-FAC-V3-XML.xml.
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True, I’ve had that valve in my .30 DW since this past Summer. While yes, it can get you over 100 FPE, in my experience when you go much over 85 FPE the gun gets quite jumpy with noticeable muzzle flip. If I were to shoot the new 56 grain ZANs at 95 FPE, I’d add some weight near the front of the gun. They are awesome pellets but because of the heavier weight and higher FPE the vertical spread will be higher unless your hold is VERY FIRM and you add a few pounds under the gun near the front.
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Tracking says my .22 Safari arrives Thursday.
I said I wouldn't get an 'electronic' airgun. Guess I need to shoot some crow, so that I can eat them. Looking forward to see what it will do. Plan on getting a .30 cal barrel down the road if all goes well with the .22.
My setup will be the 23" safari .22. Athlon Helos BTR Gen 2 6-24x56 Scope. 0db Tactical Moderator., Added the PRS buttplate with monopod and an atlas bipod on the front.
Going to test 25.39g JSB Monster Redesigns, 33.95g JSB Beast, and 18.52g H&N Baracuda hunter extremes over the weekend, weather permitting.
I'm nervously optimistic, but realize I will have a lot to learn compared to my FX and other rifles.
I said I wouldn't get an 'electronic' airgun. Guess I need to shoot some crow, so that I can eat them. Looking forward to see what it will do. Plan on getting a .30 cal barrel down the road if all goes well with the .22.
My setup will be the 23" safari .22. Athlon Helos BTR Gen 2 6-24x56 Scope. 0db Tactical Moderator., Added the PRS buttplate with monopod and an atlas bipod on the front.
Going to test 25.39g JSB Monster Redesigns, 33.95g JSB Beast, and 18.52g H&N Baracuda hunter extremes over the weekend, weather permitting.
I'm nervously optimistic, but realize I will have a lot to learn compared to my FX and other rifles.
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I received my 30 cal Alpha Wolf Safari week before last. I’m waiting on AOA to get things straightened out now. Check your first shot on the feet per second. If I let my gun sit for more than 10 minutes then it’s 50 feet a second slower than the consecutive shots after that. If I let the gun sit for a couple days it’s 100 feet a second slower on the first shot and the bottle does not leak.
Not very happy at the moment.. I’m no paper puncher, Varmint hunter so that first shot has to be money. It’s mechanical I’m sure it can be fixed but pretty disappointing right now.
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There are a couple of things that can cause that and it’s common. A little bit of regulator creep in conjunction with a high pressure tune and a light hammer strike is one possible cause. Or a valve that has some stiction is another. It might get better with use (or might not). If I’m going to use any of my PCP rifles after they have sat for awhile, I always cock and fire once with no round in the chamber.
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Scotchmo,
Thank You for the reply. I am hoping to hear back from AOA tomorrow as to how they want to proceed to get this straightened out. The gun is less than two weeks old and has been doing this from day one.
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I’ve read about something similar happening to others. Question. If you shoot 5 or more consecutive shots, does the speed go back up? And, are you running in the factory shot mode or advanced mode? Regardless, I agree that speed drop shouldn’t happen but I’m curious if it’s a computer issue.
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Speed goes back up after first shot. I have not played with the setting. AOA set the gun to advanced setting “3040”. Here are screen shots of test I have ran.
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The first comment on using the factory mode might be valid after the power cycles off and back on. But I would also suspect reg creep.
EDIT: We posted at the same time - being in advanced I suspect reg creep is your issue.
Check your Safari for reg creep by looking at the reg pressure after you take your last 'good' shot. 10 minutes later check to see what the reg pressure is on the display. Also check your reg pressure after sitting overnight. I had a reg that was creeping between 5-10bar overnight. AoA sent me a new one and it's better, but there is still creep.
EDIT 2: You can mostly ignore the "Pressure Set" as that will not impact your speed consistency. It's part of the programming and it's the pressure the reg is at when the program is set in the airgun. I would, though, drop your reg as it appears to be settling a bit high and that program may work best at 140 bar.
EDIT: We posted at the same time - being in advanced I suspect reg creep is your issue.
Check your Safari for reg creep by looking at the reg pressure after you take your last 'good' shot. 10 minutes later check to see what the reg pressure is on the display. Also check your reg pressure after sitting overnight. I had a reg that was creeping between 5-10bar overnight. AoA sent me a new one and it's better, but there is still creep.
EDIT 2: You can mostly ignore the "Pressure Set" as that will not impact your speed consistency. It's part of the programming and it's the pressure the reg is at when the program is set in the airgun. I would, though, drop your reg as it appears to be settling a bit high and that program may work best at 140 bar.
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I tried after sleep mode and keeping gun active and it made no difference if it sat for 10 mins or more 1st shot was low.
Picture above shows reg pressure after shots. Gun shows it’s set to 140. It goes up to 152 after a few minutes of no use. Stays at 152 over night
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Set your reg pressure to 135 to 140 bar -ish. Change from Advanced to Factory mode. Set your speed to 880 fps. Shoot about 4 or 5 shots. You should be happier with the gun once you do this. Also, my Delta Wolf shoots the JSB 50.1 at 870 fps better than the 44.75.
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I'm new to the DW and thought the first shot drop was related to factory mode learning and adjusting. My FPS settles in after 3 shots. It does have the new valve/software.
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