Do we have a chart for a comparison, Beeman model number to HW model? Be Well Brothers, B.
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HW/Weihrauch The Old Beeman to Weihrauch ?¿?
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anyone have a chart or list of HW = ? example HW XX = R7 I see this a lot when someone ask to buy a HW or R ? gun , the other one is less cost or is available @ ?
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R1=HW80
R10=HW85 (not the current HW85 which is the same cheapened version of the R10 as the HW95)
R9=HW95
R8=HW50S (not the current HW50S which is the cheapened version of the R8)
R7=HW30
R6=HW99 (now called HW50S)
RX1=HW90
P1=HW45
R10=HW85 (not the current HW85 which is the same cheapened version of the R10 as the HW95)
R9=HW95
R8=HW50S (not the current HW50S which is the cheapened version of the R8)
R7=HW30
R6=HW99 (now called HW50S)
RX1=HW90
P1=HW45
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Not a Weihrauch, but for what it's worth the "Beeman C1" was a Webley-built carbine with straight-wrist "western" stock, based on the Webley Vulcan action.
Also not an HW, but the R5 was a limited-run version of the FWB 124.
The "old" HW 50 (R8) was actually the first airgun HW built after the war, in production 1951 to about 1998...many interesting variations over the years. It used a 30mm OD receiver tube, the nice heavy threaded-on rear section (like the big HW 35, HW 80, HW 77, etc.), and 25mm piston seal (same part as HW 30/R7). Solid, nice-handling rifle, about a 700 FPS gun In .177. The HW 55 target rifle was based on this action.
The "new" HW 50 (really HW 99) has a receiver tube with identical external dimensions to the old 50, but otherwise quite different. Inside a longer stroke, 26mm seal, and one-piece receiver tube with trigger held in by plugs like the R7. It was an ingenious way to get an extra 100 FPS out of the same-size action. In the UK it is still called the HW 99.
Also not an HW, but the R5 was a limited-run version of the FWB 124.
The "old" HW 50 (R8) was actually the first airgun HW built after the war, in production 1951 to about 1998...many interesting variations over the years. It used a 30mm OD receiver tube, the nice heavy threaded-on rear section (like the big HW 35, HW 80, HW 77, etc.), and 25mm piston seal (same part as HW 30/R7). Solid, nice-handling rifle, about a 700 FPS gun In .177. The HW 55 target rifle was based on this action.
The "new" HW 50 (really HW 99) has a receiver tube with identical external dimensions to the old 50, but otherwise quite different. Inside a longer stroke, 26mm seal, and one-piece receiver tube with trigger held in by plugs like the R7. It was an ingenious way to get an extra 100 FPS out of the same-size action. In the UK it is still called the HW 99.
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P17 is a Chinese copy of the HW40.
I seem to remember a short lived, Beeman version of the HW75 SSP?
The HW70 never got a P number. They just called it the Beeman HW70.
My Beeman Webly Vulcan didn't have an R number either.
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Weihrauch HW30S----------Beeman R7
Weihrauch HW40-----------Beeman P3
Weihrauch HW45-----------Beeman P1
Weihrauch HW50S----------Beeman R8
Weihrauch HW75-----------Beeman P2
Weihrauch HW77/HW77K---Weihrauch HW77/HW77K
Weihrauch HW80-----------Beeman R1
Weihrauch HW85-----------Beeman R10
Weihrauch HW90-----------Beeman RX series
Weihrauch HW95-----------Beeman R9
Weihrauch HW98-----------Beeman R11
Weihrauch HW99S----------Beeman R6
Weihrauch HW40-----------Beeman P3
Weihrauch HW45-----------Beeman P1
Weihrauch HW50S----------Beeman R8
Weihrauch HW75-----------Beeman P2
Weihrauch HW77/HW77K---Weihrauch HW77/HW77K
Weihrauch HW80-----------Beeman R1
Weihrauch HW85-----------Beeman R10
Weihrauch HW90-----------Beeman RX series
Weihrauch HW95-----------Beeman R9
Weihrauch HW98-----------Beeman R11
Weihrauch HW99S----------Beeman R6
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You are correct! I forgot the pistols and the R11 - leave it to DMM, LOL!
P1 = HW 45 springer pistol
P2 = HW 75 SSP target pistol
P3 = HW 40 SSP sport pistol
P17 = cheaper copy of the HW 40/P3.
The P2 is built on the same basic metal frame as the P1. Most Beeman P2's have the full frame with separate grip panels, like the P1. Today the HW 75 usually has the one-piece wood target grip mounted to a cut-down frame, as do some versions of the HW 45.
The P17 is apparently an authorized, Chinese license-built rendition of the P3. Famously good value-for-money airgun.
P1 = HW 45 springer pistol
P2 = HW 75 SSP target pistol
P3 = HW 40 SSP sport pistol
P17 = cheaper copy of the HW 40/P3.
The P2 is built on the same basic metal frame as the P1. Most Beeman P2's have the full frame with separate grip panels, like the P1. Today the HW 75 usually has the one-piece wood target grip mounted to a cut-down frame, as do some versions of the HW 45.
The P17 is apparently an authorized, Chinese license-built rendition of the P3. Famously good value-for-money airgun.
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Good luck getting your hands on an R5...lol. At least according to the Airgun Blue Book, the rifle never went into production and only 4 were ever made. 2 were kept by Weihrauch and the good Dr Beeman got 2 of them.
Going to guess if either ever comes up for sale from his collection, you better have some very deep pockets.
Going to guess if either ever comes up for sale from his collection, you better have some very deep pockets.
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Trusting my shaky memory here, but the "R" numbers were rifles with a unique Beeman touch - typically stocks. The HW 35, 55, and 77; Webley Osprey and Vulcan; FWB 124 and 127; all FWB match rifles and pistols; etc., were always sold by Beeman's under their original names, also a few Anschutz, BSF, Walther guns (and others I'm forgetting!) in his earlier days. Likewise the HW 30 and HW 50 until their new wood morphed them into the R7 and R8.
Beeman imported Diana rifles for a few years, but it seems to have never been a very happy marriage! At first he just added his name to UK-market "Original" markings - for example Diana 35 = "Beeman's Original 35" - but later they briefly had their own unique names. If you're into collecting markings, I think any Beeman-marked Diana is rather rare. I have a vague memory of Dr. B writing the "Beeman 200" might be the least common of all.
Rifles:
Diana 27 = Beeman 100
Diana 35 = Beeman 200
Diana 45 = Beeman 250
Diana 75 = Beeman 400
Pistols:
Diana 5G = Beeman 700
Diana 6G = Beeman 800
Diana 6M = Beeman 850
Diana 10 = Beeman 900
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Thanks so much for giving me a reference. We can come back any time we need a memory jog. Be Well, Bandito.
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