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Airgun Technologies the recoil energy and recoil velocity of mainstream airguns
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Simple physics ...
Newtons 3rd law is in full play.
To damp its effects one must add weight to the gun, or shoot a lighter projectile.
To a degree if shooting a PCP, a more efficient tune expels less air after said projectile leaves muzzle ... so a tad less post shot recoil can be noted.
Good luck on your learning curve
Newtons 3rd law is in full play.
To damp its effects one must add weight to the gun, or shoot a lighter projectile.
To a degree if shooting a PCP, a more efficient tune expels less air after said projectile leaves muzzle ... so a tad less post shot recoil can be noted.
Good luck on your learning curve
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In springers its significant and comparable to a variety of powderburners. In PCPs, at least for the smaller calibres, it's essentially nothing.
Are you interested in something specific?
Are you interested in something specific?
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We are a manufacturer of hunting rifle thermal imaging scopes. We found that more and more users are using thermal imaging scopes on air rifles, so we investigated the recoil of air rifles so that we can design more user-friendly scopes.
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Thanks for your advice, that's helpful。Simple physics ...
Newtons 3rd law is in full play.
To damp its effects one must add weight to the gun, or shoot a lighter projectile.
To a degree if shooting a PCP, a more efficient tune expels less air after said projectile leaves muzzle ... so a tad less post shot recoil can be noted.
Good luck on your learning curve
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Then "we" needs to study what magnum springers produce as "noxious recoil and BUZZ and so on.... Magnum springers have been the death of many a good scope. there may be a few big bore PCP's that are pretty tough on scopes but nothing like the beasty cheap springers.
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Spring guns in general have a double recoil that quickly rattle scopes apart that'd last forever on a 308. The recoil isn't terrible for the shooter but anything attached to the gun has a rough life. The double recoil is by directional and caused by the acceleration and sudden deceleration of the spring and piston. This applies to gas ram powered piston as well.
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So you have noticed that more of your products are being used on air guns. Now you would like to focus on this market. Excellent!
Many of us have inexpensive night vision of some kind. But thermal is a big step up in price and quickly eliminates most customers.
What you need to do is to bring an affordable, light, compact thermal to the airgun community. Functionality at less than 50 meters is critical.
the price point should be in the $300 range. If reliable, it would sell like mad.
As for recoil, pcp will have little effect. springers will destroy the device.
Send a prototype to me and I will give you an evaluation. If I can stay awake after dark.
Many of us have inexpensive night vision of some kind. But thermal is a big step up in price and quickly eliminates most customers.
What you need to do is to bring an affordable, light, compact thermal to the airgun community. Functionality at less than 50 meters is critical.
the price point should be in the $300 range. If reliable, it would sell like mad.
As for recoil, pcp will have little effect. springers will destroy the device.
Send a prototype to me and I will give you an evaluation. If I can stay awake after dark.
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OK，We will focus on reliability testing on Spring guns. If the test passes, I understand there will be no problem on other types of airguns.
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Thank you for your suggestions. We are focusing on developing this scope to speed up the time to market. Please stay tuned!
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And....you can eliminate 99% of it with one of these.....Simple physics ...
Newtons 3rd law is in full play.
To damp its effects one must add weight to the gun, or shoot a lighter projectile.
To a degree if shooting a PCP, a more efficient tune expels less air after said projectile leaves muzzle ... so a tad less post shot recoil can be noted.
Good luck on your learning curve
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I doubt there is much of a market for thermal optics on springers.
IMO you'd probably maintain most of your market if you engineered a thermal scope intended only for light-recoiling PCPs. You could save a lot of money on the design of your scope, and it would be just as good for most airgun users that are likely to invest in a thermal.
If people want a robust thermal scope they'd buy a one intended for shotguns, etc.
IMO you'd probably maintain most of your market if you engineered a thermal scope intended only for light-recoiling PCPs. You could save a lot of money on the design of your scope, and it would be just as good for most airgun users that are likely to invest in a thermal.
If people want a robust thermal scope they'd buy a one intended for shotguns, etc.
If you do come up with a product that is solid on a springer, your confidence in it will be reflected in its warranty. No one straps an expensive product on a springer that has a subpar warranty or service.
I have seen iguana hunters using springers, mostly rats and mice hunters though.it may be a little more diverse out west.
I have seen iguana hunters using springers, mostly rats and mice hunters though.it may be a little more diverse out west.
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The scope killer is the abrupt reversal of rearward recoil to forward surge that results from the piston bouncing at the end of the compression stroke.
My TX200s producing circa 11.4 ft. lb. produce peak G of ~90. Magnum springers can easily double that, and go north of 200G.
If you multiply the weight of a scope component in pounds by the peak G, the result is the force in pounds force (lbf) trying to rip the component from the body of the scope.
My TX200s producing circa 11.4 ft. lb. produce peak G of ~90. Magnum springers can easily double that, and go north of 200G.
If you multiply the weight of a scope component in pounds by the peak G, the result is the force in pounds force (lbf) trying to rip the component from the body of the scope.
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Let my neighbor shoot my RWS 350. He ended with a cut and good bruise under his right eye from the scope recoiling. Never expected that but he was a small guy.
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Honestly, I really doubt there are more than a few dozen people out there that are going to mount a thermal optic on a springer. The airgunners with enough money and the inclination to get thermal sights are going to be almost exclusively using them on PCP's. If you can make a product that's strong enough to handle the double recoil of a magnum springer then that would be a good selling point, but I doubt it's actually necessary.
A Diana 54, Gamo Magnum or Hatsan 135 would all be good testbeds for your product. If it can withstand the recoil of any of those three then other spring guns should be no problem.
As far as PCP's are concerned their recoil is similar to that of firearms of similar energy and since airguns in general are less powerful the recoil is also generally less.
A Diana 54, Gamo Magnum or Hatsan 135 would all be good testbeds for your product. If it can withstand the recoil of any of those three then other spring guns should be no problem.
As far as PCP's are concerned their recoil is similar to that of firearms of similar energy and since airguns in general are less powerful the recoil is also generally less.
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Don’t try persuade them not to make one for us springer fans. I’m sure there are plenty who would love to have one.
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