The very best PCP

Hi everyone,

In this forum we have seen a lot in regard of this matter

At the end of the day a PCP is a beutiful, sofisticated and complex tool.

But as all tools, have specific porpuse and limited use.

Then in order to be able to make a good choice when deciding which PCP to buy you have to answer for yourself the following questions:

1.- Are you going to hunt with it or just to make target practice?

If the answer is: Hunting too, then the next question is:

2.- What size of animals will you take?

Normally a 25 Cal with 45 foot pounds is enough for almost everythis lower than a coyote.

If your are going for a Coyote or bigger, you will need a .25 Cal above 50 foor pound or better a .30 Cal with above 70 foot pounds.

3.- If your are going for a White Tailed deer you should go for a .357 Cal.

Another set of questions that you have to answer yourself is in regard of accuracy:

What kind of accuracy are you looking at and at what distance?

When hunting you have to be responsible of making accurate shots to take clean kills: Distance is the main variable here.

A bird size can be humanely taken with an air rifle at longer distances than deer, coyote, jabalina, turkey.

Then you have to answer another question:

How many shots per fill will grant you confidence and comfort?

Once you have honestly answer to those questions you have to look down at your pocket and make him the painfull question: How deep is your love for the PCP?

Then you have to define if the lenght and weight of the rifle is or not something important for you.

Now you can draft your terms sheet:

Top price:

Cal:

Shoots per fill:

Total lenght:

Maximum weight:

Minimum power accepted:

Accuracy needed at "X" yards:

Once you have finished all the analisis, then think on reliability-accuracy-quality, that means price for money.

If you have done all what above is described, then you have just one question to answer:

Which Cal. should the Uragan be?






 
Yes the Uragan is certainly all those things but let's say you were going to get a girlfriend and she needed to cook, she needed to clean, she needed to make your pancakes with that special amount of cinnamon you like with heart shaped whipped cream swirls just like mom used to do. Well one day you found this special lady and she definitely does everything you put on your little list but there's one catch....... Her face looks like Rocky balboa after his first Mr T fight and you can see the acne pulsate every time her heart beats. I'm sure she would make a great wife..... To somebody...... But not to me sorry sir I will be going with a daystate..... Or an air arms..... Or edgun....... Or literally anything else. It's just too damn ugly. 
 
Dear Emu...

In the second sentence, you spelled "beautiful" wrong!

In the next to last sentence, you used the term "yu ahvo", which is Ute Indian language meaning: "I need TP for my bunghole!".

Other than that, I got so confused and dizzy reading all the rest that I fell off my chair and spilled my Chi Latte!!!



Regards,

Kindly 'Ol Uncle Hoot


Already corrected, thanks.



I know the way I wrote was a little long, but at the very end, when you buy a PCP is very important that you answer yourself all those questions. 

If you decide to spend in a PCP you need to know exactly what you are getting, and to feel comfortable with that taking into consideration your needs and expectations.

Regards.




 
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What that guy said above, it’s got to be beautiful and accurate, and everything else.
 
Yes the Uragan is certainly all those things but let's say you were going to get a girlfriend and she needed to cook, she needed to clean, she needed to make your pancakes with that special amount of cinnamon you like with heart shaped whipped cream swirls just like mom used to do. Well one day you found this special lady and she definitely does everything you put on your little list but there's one catch....... Her face looks like Rocky balboa after his first Mr T fight and you can see the acne pulsate every time her heart beats. I'm sure she would make a great wife..... To somebody...... But not to me sorry sir I will be going with a daystate..... Or an air arms..... Or edgun....... Or literally anything else. It's just too damn ugly.

Absolutely agree with your comment.

My must accurate-handsome rifle is my Wolverine HP R, doubtless... Excelent rifle, maybe the best I own.... But is not the must practical one... Is too long and heavy for daily use ... Then when deciding which rifle to take with you to the adventure, is difficult not to take the Uragan or the Bantam Sniper (the must comfortable one of all, all, but less accurate than the Uragan). You can get very good accuracy (almost same) with the Air Arms and the Regal XL, but the shots per fill are far away.

Some years ago I owned an Air Arms S510 Walnut in .25 Cal that was a beauty... I end up selling it because of the limitation in power and shots per fill... 

I love shooting my Air Ranger Sniper. It is beautiful, powerfull (58 foot pounds) and accurate. I changed the cilinder for a 580 cc Omega and is almost perfect... But still bulky compared with the Bantham and the Uragan.

The regal XL is almost perfect (beautiful, accurate, light, comfortable, quality) but not powerfull nor gives enough shots per fill.








 
The problem with exhaustive analysis is it's just a baseline. You don't know what will be distasteful about the rifle you chose until it's been used for a while. Even things that are minor itches can be annoying after a while. 

Eh, it's why we pick a gun for each purpose and then live with those imperfections, or we mod it to change what we don't like.
 
Enrique,

sorry for people calling you out on your spelling.... 😄 -- let's see how they do in Spanish, hermano! 🤣 LOL!



I appreciate your step-by-step analytical decision making list. It seems on our forums there are a lot of opinions, which gun is good or not good, but not a lot of analysis WHY -- because to different people different things are important (like your list shows: A hunter has different priorities than a target shooter).





🔶I'd like to add one feature to your decision making list: SIZE....

Because some of us like to take our guns backpacking, or shooting out of vehicles and other confined spaces. And some of us have to travel with their guns on the airlines -- and can't afford to get ripped off by the airline excess baggage size fees....

So this feature -- SIZE -- will have a profound influence on the gun decision making process: bullpups, foldable stock rifles, TDR's, and pistols.



Matthias
 
All I can add is spend six months reading everything airgun related on at least two forums, watch as many videos as you can between Youtube and Airgun 101, and save at least another thousand while you're learning, then check back. The truth is as you learn more, your mind will change a dozen times about what to buy.

So true

When I got Hammerly Pneuma my first PCP after springer from Walmart it was a humongous upgrade, I was under the impression it's the best it's all I need...

10 years and thousands of dollars less in my account I know how wrong I was...

The very best PSP - is two, or 3 or more...

You not going to hunt chipmunks and deer with the same rifle, you not going to shoot the target with .357 too 
 
Sometimes there are compromises. Well...almost always, actually. And the perfect gun is going to be hard to find. For what I do - stalking hogs in thick swamp cover - my .457 Texan Carbine CF performs the job admirably. It's light and maneuverable enough to get through the crud with, and it has the power to put a hog down quickly. But it truly is DerringerJack's girl with the pulsating pimples. Let's face it - that gun is ugly. It's like a broom stick with a handle that someone threw a Popsicle stick on as a butt pad as an afterthought. Not only is it ugly, but the ergonomics are flat out horrible. You need midget arms to shoot the thing unless you hold it out away from your shoulder, and it requires extra tall risers for the scope unless you want to be laying your head sideways across the tank to line your eye up. BUT - in the realm of air guns, I'm not sure I would want to be carrying anything else when I spook a 250+ boar out of his bed in the palmettos at 15 yards. Something about having that 300 grain hollow point on tap makes me feel better.
 
Dear Emu...

In the second sentence, you spelled "beautiful" wrong!

In the next to last sentence, you used the term "yu ahvo", which is Ute Indian language meaning: "I need TP for my bunghole!".

Other than that, I got so confused and dizzy reading all the rest that I fell off my chair and spilled my Chi Latte!!!



Regards,

Kindly 'Ol Uncle Hoot


😂😂 I needed that laugh