The ZAN Projectiles .22 ELR are now available !!!

[richter.brent1]

I think it is more aligned toward fpe (equivalent gas burners and compressed air), allot of airguns despite caliper have different fpe output. Like an under powered 30 caliper would hit at 90 fpe. Standard .25 daystate airrangers do 40fpe, then there is one that does 60fpe, I have the extreme that does 80fpe and after I put on a 1.1l bottle it is going at 90fpe which helps push the .75" 57 grains slugs submoa down range. Also you have non regulated airguns (stores in plenum) that full mechanical, electric controlled fire sequences and ones with multiple onboard regulators (fx). Sorta a complex bunch of inputs to standardize. The size benefit of 30 caliper verse 22 is .04" benefit which wouldn't really be enough meat to score the hit anyways. Heavy slugs drop faster, so it is all a matter of doping. While heavy bucks the wind more, they are in the air longer, so wind drift is more too.
So I'm thinking all things being equal there are allot of options airgunners have to compete with the rimfire, obviously higher end airguns yield close to air superiority over those powder burners

 

[richter.brent1]

I think it is more aligned toward fpe (equivalent gas burners and compressed air), allot of airguns despite caliper have different fpe output. Like an under powered 30 caliper would hit at 90 fpe. Standard .25 daystate airrangers do 40fpe, then there is one that does 60fpe, I have the extreme that does 80fpe and after I put on a 1.1l bottle it is going at 90fpe which helps push the .75" 57 grains slugs submoa down range. Also you have non regulated airguns (stores in plenum) that full mechanical, electric controlled fire sequences and ones with multiple onboard regulators (fx). Sorta a complex bunch of inputs to standardize. The size benefit of 30 caliper verse 22 is .04" benefit which wouldn't really be enough meat to score the hit anyways. Heavy slugs drop faster, so it is all a matter of doping. While heavy bucks the wind more, they are in the air longer, so wind drift is more too.
So I'm thinking all things being equal there are allot of options airgunners have to compete with the rimfire, obviously higher end airguns yield close to air superiority over those powder burners

Also, the prs cap for rimfire equipment bolt action is 1600 bucks ( gun and scope) airguns don't have a monetary limitation. That is helpful for the pricey airgun and the accompany scope. So that is a benefit favoring airgunners.

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[zer0dev]

Also, the prs cap for rimfire equipment bolt action is 1600 bucks ( gun and scope) airguns don't have a monetary limitation. That is helpful for the pricey airgun and the accompany scope. So that is a benefit favoring airgunners.

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That's the cap for Production division (MSRP of rifle plus optic). Open division has no limits or restrictions.

 

[JaceSpace1369]

I think it is more aligned toward fpe (equivalent gas burners and compressed air), allot of airguns despite caliper have different fpe output. Like an under powered 30 caliper would hit at 90 fpe. Standard .25 daystate airrangers do 40fpe, then there is one that does 60fpe, I have the extreme that does 80fpe and after I put on a 1.1l bottle it is going at 90fpe which helps push the .75" 57 grains slugs submoa down range. Also you have non regulated airguns (stores in plenum) that full mechanical, electric controlled fire sequences and ones with multiple onboard regulators (fx). Sorta a complex bunch of inputs to standardize. The size benefit of 30 caliper verse 22 is .04" benefit which wouldn't really be enough meat to score the hit anyways. Heavy slugs drop faster, so it is all a matter of doping. While heavy bucks the wind more, they are in the air longer, so wind drift is more too.
So I'm thinking all things being equal there are allot of options airgunners have to compete with the rimfire, obviously higher end airguns yield close to air superiority over those powder burners

Do you have a picture of the 1.1l bottle on your ranger? I too have an 80fpe air ranger extreme .25 and have been debating putting cf bottle on, but since I have it listed I haven't done anything.

 

[richter.brent1]

We should talk, I haven't been able to text you directly on that, sorta want your gun, I have 4 of them....you can never have enough of them....

 

[richter.brent1]

That's the cap for Production division (MSRP of rifle plus optic). Open division has no limits or restrictions.

 

[richter.brent1]

We should talk, I haven't been able to text you directly on that, sorta want your gun, I have 4 of them....you can never have enough of them....

The bottle fits after sanding the inside of the stock down, I use a hold bracket too

 

[JaceSpace1369]

We should talk, I haven't been able to text you directly on that, sorta want your gun, I have 4 of them....you can never have enough of them....

Was this directed towards me? It seems like it lol.

 

[JaceSpace1369]

The bottle fits after sanding the inside of the stock down, I use a hold bracket too

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That is a huge can! Interesting looking 1.1L. I was not expecting it to look so slim.

 

[richter.brent1]

That is a huge can! Interesting looking 1.1L. I was not expecting it to look so slim.

So you need to get the old models, the new ones are a little shorter and fatter and the barrel interferes when screwing it down. If you aren't using a regulator, this helps "push" air. I gained 10-13 fpe on the airranger extreme. I went from the 480(metal) to like the 560 carbon, the the 720 carbon to the 1.1l carbon. Each time fpe went up. Having more air in board helps shoot more shots in the 3250psi zone. I use a external regulator when I tune, best accuracy using .25 griffin 57 grain large boa, 4mm ldc, round dimpled tip. So I get like 8 shoots in the range before filling. Distance is all about consistency, and we have to make due with what we have (I tried an regulator that you screw between the bottle and plenum and I could never get it to seal). This is how we go out to the feedlots.

 

[JaceSpace1369]

So you need to get the old models, the new ones are a little shorter and fatter and the barrel interferes when screwing it down. If you aren't using a regulator, this helps "push" air. I gained 10-13 fpe on the airranger extreme. I went from the 480(metal) to like the 560 carbon, the the 720 carbon to the 1.1l carbon. Each time fpe went up. Having more air in board helps shoot more shots in the 3250psi zone. I use a external regulator when I tune, best accuracy using .25 griffin 57 grain large boa, 4mm ldc, round dimpled tip. So I get like 8 shoots in the range before filling. Distance is all about consistency, and we have to make due with what we have (I tried an regulator that you screw between the bottle and plenum and I could never get it to seal). This is how we go out to the feedlots.

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Oh, so you shoot tethered with a regulator? Interesting, I thought about having lane build a regulator for it but it would be one behind the bottle and putting a 700cc bottle.

 

[richter.brent1]

I dial in with a regulator, it is set to 3250psi, that is the mid green on the dial. When I go out I keep the needle in the middle of the green (3250) with no regulator.
The regulator I have for the gun won't install without leaking was built custom, they didn't offer 3250 until I asked. I was going to send my gun into aoa after the turkey season and see if they can figure out why it doesn't seal.

Then I could too off at 3500, and have the upper green band to work with. It would give more shots per fill for sure.
This is how the external regulator is set up
I normally set zero and yardages in El Centro at the feedlots. It is zero elevation, perfectly still in the mornings, I go out to about 270 yards

 

[richter.brent1]

This is the regulator that leaks, set to 3250psi
They don't make them anymore that I'm aware of

 

[JaceSpace1369]

I dial in with a regulator, it is set to 3250psi, that is the mid green on the dial. When I go out I keep the needle in the middle of the green (3250) with no regulator.
The regulator I have for the gun won't install without leaking was built custom, they didn't offer 3250 until I asked. I was going to send my gun into aoa after the turkey season and see if they can figure out why it doesn't seal.

Then I could too off at 3500, and have the upper green band to work with. It would give more shots per fill for sure.
This is how the external regulator is set up
I normally set zero and yardages in El Centro at the feedlots. It is zero elevation, perfectly still in the mornings, I go out to about 270 yards

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Damn, that's some good distance, anda nice reg set up. How many shots do you end up getting off a tank?

This is the regulator that leaks, set to 3250psi
They don't make them anymore that I'm aware of

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Thanks! I looked for regulators on Google and one of the first links was lane regulators and they build them to whatever specs you want. I believe it's somewhere around $130

 

[richter.brent1]

The guppie tank does about 85 shots
The big 100 inch tank does like 300 shots, till it gets around 3500 psi.

 

[Fodzy le Geek]

Any word on the .25 version?
Will they be coming next or is .30 next on the table.

The .25 coming next. The first prototypes will soon come out of production. They should arrive soon, in February or March.

 

[Fodzy le Geek]

Interesting but very heavy and at the same time so long that it will not fit into many magazines... - 11.8mm -

For stability in ELR a long slug is good. we're going to think more about better accuracy rather than whether it fits in a specific magazine, knowing that more and more magazines are accepting longer slugs as it becomes a bit more the norm (Rti arms Mora, Epic 1, etc...)

 

[Fodzy le Geek]

Hey guys,

the .22 ELR slugs that every one was waiting for are finally available in the stores.
In the USA you can find them at Utah Airguns , in Europe Krale BV will have stock in a day or two, Slug Shop already has them and in UK Sportsman Gun Center .


Let us know what you think when you have a chance to try them out

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1. Precision Engineering ZAN Projectiles ELR slugs are meticulously designed and manufactured to the highest standards of quality and precision. Each slug undergoes a multi-step quality control process to ensure that it delivers consistent performance, shot after shot. The tight tolerances, uniformity, and aerodynamic design help achieve unparalleled accuracy, even at extended ranges.

2. Aerodynamic Design The key to achieving long-range success with airguns lies in the slug’s aerodynamic profile. ZAN ELR slugs are optimized for minimal drag, reduced wind drift, and stable flight paths. The slugs feature sleek, high-BC (Ballistic Coefficient) designs, which allow them to retain velocity and energy longer, resulting in flatter trajectories and greater accuracy.

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[Fodzy le Geek]

Will it even fit in the DRS? And at 42.3 grains, bumping the speed up to 939 (as advertised) will probably get you 6 or 7 shots per 230 bar fill?. Looks like you’ll need to shoot a Panthera or Dynamic in 700mm to effectively use these slugs.

and we have better airgun actually on the market with more power and accurate as the RTI arms MORA or the Epic 1 who have a more efficient air circuit and with less air or plenum pressure have better speed

 

[Fodzy le Geek]

Do mean like the Red Panda. I haven't heard much about the RED Panda lately

Normal, Production was stopped due to patent and licensing issues. We will see if in 2025 the Karma red panda will return...