Thermal monocular recommendations?

Personally pulsar has one of the best handheld monoculars. I havent tried the new sidewinder from agm but i had a taipan and the pulsar is way better. I won’t buy anything anymore without looking through it, I have a good dealer about 5hrs away and will make the drive to look and get advice. I’m running a pulsar helion2 and iray bolt 50c
 
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im not an authority on night vision, fairly new to it, but i do have both a thor and a 4kpro .. imo thermal does very little for an advantage on anything at airgun ranges, and i much prefer the high resolution of the 4k infrared .. the highest resolution the average person is going to afford in thermal is 670 and thats high end .. the more economical ones are 160 or 380 resolution .. the 4k is. *drum roll* 1080 resolution .. do the math ... thermal can help pick targets out that are distant is about it .. if anything id buy a larger IR torch you can keep charged easier in maybe 940nm and mount it on a small tripod ... but thats my inexperienced recommendation ..dont waste your money on a thermal unless its for a specific thing like distance, the infrared/ 4k is alot better for most things ..
 
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I use my handheld scanner almost every night. I like the idea of spotting with the thermal scanner and using the 4K for identification. I started with a 4k5-20, mine had constant issues, also had wraith 4K and played with the mini. It is hard to beat a thermal for spotting animals, I would keep your scope and get a decent hand held. I’m coyote hunting though and enjoy all the other stuff I find at night….. except for armadillos, they get the hammer.
 
Have any of you guys that hunt with thermals used night vision? Just wondering for night time pesting inside of 50 yds night vision would work.
I have used digital NV scopes (atn 4K, wraith 4K and wraith mini). Watch the field of view on NV and thermal, a 5x minimum is not equal FOV to a regular 5x scope. Honestly inside 50 yards the mini would be my choice. I have not tried any hand helds past gen 1+. One major advantage of NV is it can see through glass. I did levee watch night shift when the Mississippi River was up. I was able to check things(if enough moon light) without the illuminator so I didn’t have to roll down the windows. My thermal cannot do this, you also cannot see whirlpools with the thermal. We were watching for lock blow outs, a 60in pipe collapsed and it took a ton of semi loads of rock to stop it.
 
I used NV extensively in the past and still use it for certain applications, but my preferred technology for night hunting (pigs & armadillos) is a Thermal Scope.

As can be seen in @Cranky1’s fine pictures above, with higher resolution thermals, the pictures or thermography can be fantastic. And in most cases, the view you see when looking through the scope itself is usually considerably better than the saved videos / pictures you download.
 
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Most of my night hunting is within 50 yards and in thick cover. With such close distances, it is important to get a Thermal with a wide FOV and lower magnification. The AGM Thermal I use on my PCP has a 25 mm lens and a starting magnification of 1.5. This would be ideal for 40 yard shots at Skunks.

Here is a link to the Thermal I have on the PCP. It gets great reviews and I have been very impressed with it, especially at this price point. You can easily remove it from your gun and use it as a monocular, and best yet, you can quickly reattached it to your rifle and not lose its zero.
 
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So my next question I have for you thermal/NV guys is this. My main need for night pesting is a skunk problem. So my thought is NV with a red dot for inside of 40 yds. I'm thinking
@lhandy I’m not sure how you’d incorporate a red dot with night vision. The best combo that I’ve found is to use a night vision scope with a laser rangefinder on it coupled with a thermal handheld scanner. The reason being is that f animals are behind plant cover (shrubs, brush, branches/leaves, or grass) the thermal will pick up the animal and depending upon the unit, you may not see the plant matter. So with that in mind thermal is good to locate an animal. With the low velocities and projectile weights that we use, it’s best to avoid shooting through plants. A night vision scope will show you just about everything that the IR light reaches. You can add additional IR lights for better illumination, too much will make your picture too bright which can wash out some details. The laser rangefinder (LRF) on the night vision scope is important when shooting at animals at night because it’s tough to obtain the changing range(s) on moving animals. Unless you will always be shooting at animals from a fixed location to a bait station or another location with a known distance, I suggest getting a NV scope with a laser rangefinder. I use the Pard NV008s. I had an AGM Rattler thermal scope and sent it back because it lacks an LRF. The AGN Varminter is the scope to get if you go the AGM route. Personally I’d look for a Pulsar thermal scope with a LRF if you can afford one.
 
So my next question I have for you thermal/NV guys is this. My main need for night pesting is a skunk problem. So my thought is NV with a red dot for inside of 40 yds. I'm thinking
Maybe a wraith 4K mini, 2x base mag. I love my hand held scanner is use it almost every night. This is a pic from my shop over the roof of my house. I kept hearing something, it’s much easier to pick out critters with thermal. You get better detail with NV but harder to find.
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Don’t for get to check fov even on the same magnification when looking. Calculate it off of the angular FOV given. Take angle x 52.5 = ft at 1000 yards.
8degree x 52.5=420ft at 1000 yards.
420ft x .04(for 40 yard) gives 16.8ft fov at 40 yards.
I think I remember it right. 🤔

But check the fov on ones your interested in, the digital stuff doesn’t scale quite like regular scopes. Last time I looked some units were very narrow for the same mag( can’t remember which ones).
 
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