Thoughts on some PCP Air Rifles?

What sets the Ataman apart? I read that it needs to be pumped to a high pressure, is that the issue?
I love my bp17, you don’t have to pump to 300 bar, I run both of my Ataman’s at 250 bar. I also love the forward cocking handle as well, this thing is loud though without any moderator so you won’t be shooting it your backyard unless you have good neighbors lol, I have a adapter on mine and I’m running a ronin on it, a little overkill but it’s super quiet.

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I like the look of both the Ataman and the Caiman, although it's real hard to say without actually handling one or the other. Seems those Caimans are about 300 dollars cheaper for the moment. Every Airgun merchant seems to have a no return policy, so if I buy one its' a done deal I guess.

I'm still debating on the Hw100. Only thing that has turned me off is the stock styling. It's either Pixie Dust or Vepr Super.....

I'm actually thinking those Caimans look pretty good to me.
 
Take Jps’s advice as posted above. I own all of the pcps and springers mentioned. He is spot on. Can’t go wrong with any of them but if I could only have one, it would be the AA S510 or the HW97 both in .22.
I agree with you on the AA S510. I can't decide between it and the Daystate Wolverine R Hi Power. From what I can tell the S510 comes only in .177 and .22 . . . I have both of those calibers covered and fancy the .303 Wolverine.
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I've given allot of thought to a Caiman over the Ataman.

Shot my Hw90 a little today, I feel like the balance is a little outside of what I want. Stock is oversized and with the RWS lockdown mount, I feel the scope is mounted too high. I generally prefer a smaller obj. on my scope. Its a potent gun power wise, but I may put it up for sale and buy the Caiman.

I am wondering about the Caiman in 25 cal vs 22. I see on the charts the FPE is in the 40's for the 25 cal and only 25 or so for the 22. I feel like that might be a little exaggerated?

Does anyone own a 25 cal Caiman and could share some thoughts?
 
I've given allot of thought to a Caiman over the Ataman.

Shot my Hw90 a little today, I feel like the balance is a little outside of what I want. Stock is oversized and with the RWS lockdown mount, I feel the scope is mounted too high. I generally prefer a smaller obj. on my scope. Its a potent gun power wise, but I may put it up for sale and buy the Caiman.

I am wondering about the Caiman in 25 cal vs 22. I see on the charts the FPE is in the 40's for the 25 cal and only 25 or so for the 22. I feel like that might be a little exaggerated?

Does anyone own a 25 cal Caiman and could share some thoughts?

Your answer is the

Brocock pathfinder XR, in 25 caliber.
 
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Ill probable catch hell for this?Just get a Gamo urben in 22 easy fill ,900 fps. in 22 low sound 10 shot mag.works .5.1/2 pd.Kill anything with in 40 yards. Nice trigger.that will get ya started $250 maybe less?Its a BSA Buccaneer in sheep clothing.Try that before ya dump $800 to $1500 into a air rifle."O" one more thing?its Ugley, ifen ya can get past that ya got it"
 
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For top heirloom quality PCP rifles that won't break the bank, consider (all between $1100 and $1500):

Daystate Revere (regulated or non regulated)
Air Arms S510
FX Dreamline Classic
FX Crown VP
FX Wildcat
Brocock
BSA R-10 ($899)

If you want this level of quality in a piston gun, then the HW95/R9, HW97K or Air Arms TX 200 are tops.

Have fun shopping.
I have a Crown and an Air Wolf. Both are phenomenal rifles. I just received my new R10 and it is equal to the FX and Daystate in every category. I want an S510 or a Wolverine R next.

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i really hate the bolt action, wish they were sidelevers.
My Daystate and PRod both have the bolt action as well. I like them both very much, too. The Crown, Akela and Caiman are side levers, so I am open-minded to both.

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My next rifle may very well be another side-lever. I "need" a dedicated .30 cal to round out the fleet. The Evol Paradigm is causing an itch.
 

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Ok, my Caiman 25cal came in today. IT's a better looking little airgun than I had expected. Wood looks very nice, fit/finish of wood and metal is great.
Feels great in hand and light to handle. I bought it from Utah Airguns as a new on sale gun. They included a test sheet that detailed average velocity and function.

Ok...But now here's the kicker. When I picked up the Caiman and rolled it over in my hands to look at the underside, the gun came apart halfway :O
There are no screws/bolts holding the upper to the lower???? How on earth did that get past the QC at Airmaks and the "shakedown" function and velocity testing at Utah Airguns??? No screws in the box or case.......?

I guess I'll take it to the hardware store and see if I can fit up some screws and maybe lock washers? it looks like it might have had a lock washer on the screws....And I'm guessing they're probably cap screws?

Anyone else have a similar experience? I wonder if I bought a "return" rather than new stock on sale items?

I'm not really inclined to send it back. it's a pretty little gun and I think it would be a waste of time and money over some common hardware....
 
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