Daystate Thoughts on used Daystate Red Wolf

[chfj]

I've always admired the Daystate Red Wolf. I know it has been eclipsed by new models....Grey Wolf, Black Wolf, etc., but I love the classic lines and I'm intrigued by the electronic tuning.

What are your thoughts regarding purchasing a used Red Wolf? Any pitfalls to avoid or concerns to address?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

 

[jps2486]

Apparently the Red Wolf has a good reputation for reliability. I just bought a Wolverine R, which is the mechanical version and couldn’t be happier. Mine is a .177 caliber and I’m getting around 150+ shots per fill. Shooting 100 shots I got an average of 930 fps with a max spread of 10 fps and a standard deviation of 2. That’s better than any other rifle I’ve tested. Right now, AOA has Red Wolves and Wolverines on sale for a darn good price both in walnut and laminate.

 

[cavedweller]

I've always admired the Daystate Red Wolf. I know it has been eclipsed by new models....Grey Wolf, Black Wolf, etc., but I love the classic lines and I'm intrigued by the electronic tuning.

What are your thoughts regarding purchasing a used Red Wolf? Any pitfalls to avoid or concerns to address?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

The Redwolf is a stellar performer and very reliable. I’ve owned pretty much all of the very best brands and models therein including Daystate’s Alphawolf, Thomas, USFT, Skout, Steyr, Air Arms, Weihrauch, Brocock, Feinwerkbau and on and on. To date IMO, nothing has eclipsed the Daystate Redwolf’s smooth shot cycle and air efficiency. But every gun is unique and thus the attraction to own a variety of different types. The Blackwolf is a great example of Daystate taking the best features of their mechanical Airguns and simplifying them in a single platform. You can’t go wrong with a 5 year warranty for a new one either. No matter what you choose, shoot it often And enjoy! If you buy used, send it to AOA and transfer the remaining warranty for a small fee.

 

[Emu]

I bought mine used.

Imhad a problem with the pin that goes upmto rotate old magazine. I have to use new system magazines.

It is a delightful rifle to shoot.

 

[Bud-sc]

My Redwolf is my go to gun when I am going to the range.....I always take either 2/3 guns to the range and the Redwolf is always my go to gun. I bought used from AOA. My Redwolf is first gen board not second gen. I swapped out barrels on my Redwolf and put a old Daystate Pulsar barrel and holy crap what a accurate rifle with JTS pellets....all of them shoot very well....

 

[Smok3y]

It is a great rifle. Note that the best Daystate shooters the last few years were not shooting Deltas.

 

[Trucker3573]

I wouldn’t hesitate. Especially a good time as prices seem low. There was an hp over on the AGW forum for 1500 bucks. Emailed the guy a cpl times. Seemed legit but definitely do your due diligence there. Lots of scammers. The “Alfa” wolf over there is 100% a scammer.

 

[ctshooter]

If you find a well cared for used Red Wolf I would not hesitate to jump on it. I've owned a handful of RWs over the years with my favorites being a .30 HP and .177 Standard, but they've all been excellent shooters. The electronic trigger is a very different feel, but so nice. If you are somewhat technically inclined you can swap the GCU with a Helliboard and that will give you 12 levels of customizable settings.

 

[jps2486]

The Redwolf is a stellar performer and very reliable. I’ve owned pretty much all of the very best brands and models therein including Daystate’s Alphawolf, Thomas, USFT, Skout, Steyr, Air Arms, Weihrauch, Brocock, Feinwerkbau and on and on. To date IMO, nothing has eclipsed the Daystate Redwolf’s smooth shot cycle and air efficiency. But every gun is unique and thus the attraction to own a variety of different types. The Blackwolf is a great example of Daystate taking the best features of their mechanical Airguns and simplifying them in a single platform. You can’t go wrong with a 5 year warranty for a new one either. No matter what you choose, shoot it often And enjoy! If you buy used, send it to AOA and transfer the remaining warranty for a small fee.

My experience is about like yours without the Thomas. Since I'm pretty much a target shooter, my objective is to hit the target. My new Wolverine is one of the best in that regard and I doubt the Blackwolf can do any better. I can buy two Wolverines for the price of one BW. I'm not a fiddler, so all this adjustabiilty and whiz-bang gadgets are nice, but like my FX guns, I set them up once for their intended purpose and never change them.

 

[Aimright]

Bought mine used from AoA a few years ago, a gcu2 .22 high power. Really enjoy shooting it and have had no issues.

 

[Arzrover]

My Red Wolves are the favorite for both my wife and I of a fairly large stable of airguns.

The main attributes that I like are that it's UNREGULATED, simple internally in terms of design, wear, and resealing, and quite efficient = quiet for power and nice shot cycle. It also has no cocking effort so can be cycled with a finger or thumb and quickly.

As far as buying a used one, were I in the market, wouldn't even be a question... just how much... assuming reasonable condition externally. AoA has a good supply of parts if it's Gen1 to upgrade or to repair any. I could probably make the majority of the parts if I had to but that's just me . I'm just very comfortable with the design...

I have seen an occasional barrel that needed work or replacement but that would be somewhat rare, I believe ... I've personally not worn out a valve but either of mine are not original with all the testing they went through. One is definitely in excess of 70000 rounds and the other is more like 30000 and the majority was over 50 ft lb and as high as 100 ft lb. One friend actually did wear a valve body out but unknown how many rounds as he would shoot through at least a couple of tins a couple of times a week for pidgeons on dairy farms in the area PLUS his testing and practice for competition.

I also like the look but not the ergos of the stock... but it's not difficult to adapt to... for bench or FT...

Anyway ... I would regard it as one of the most reliable of all mine... definitely dependable for first shot on pests on my property or FT.
Bob

 

[chfj]

Thanks everyone for your input. I'm seeing reference to HP and standard.....what is the difference in a standard Red Wolf and HP Red Wolf?

 

[ctshooter]

@Arzrover makes a great point about it being unregulated - no first shot slow/reg creep issues. The electronics get it all set for you - even the Alpha/Delta Wolf cannot say that as they suffer terribly from reg creep of 5-10bar.

The Standard only comes in 177 and 22 and has a 17" standard LW barrel. Stock power levels are 18fpe and 45fpe - I know I can get 27fpe easily from a 177 Standard with the Hellibord.

The HP models come with 23" LW poly barrels and shoot around 30/60/65/80 fpe in 177/22/25/30.

 

[ctshooter]

If you do get a used RW make sure it has the GCU2, which you can tell by it being a 3S Lipo battery versus a 2S. ie: 11.1v and not 7.4v.

 

[Woitey]

I hope all of you are correct. I just bought a RWHP in 30 cal LNIB from AOA, and it will be here Tuesday. I really wasn't in the market for a 30 cal, as it's much more than I need, but the price was so good I couldn't let it go past. My first Daystate, and electronic gun.

 

[ctshooter]

I look forward to your report once received. Both my Red Wolf .30 and BRK Sonoran shoot amazing with the AEA 45gr pellets. Definitely give them a try - much more consistent than the JSB 44.75gr lately. The 48gr Zan are worth a try too, but they'd be going lower middle 800s.

 

[Woitey]

Will likely write something up next month. Have an air compressor I need to get next. Am thinking of the 310 Evo, although I'm not looking forward to the 50-hour maintenance cycle.

 

[Trucker3573]

Check the new prices as well first. I just looked last night and a brand new one right now is only 2200-2300 or something. I wouldn’t pay near 2k for a used one like many want.
I do have a RW question that perplexes me. Why does the .22 hp and the .25 hp produce the exact same energy?

 

[cavedweller]

It is a great rifle. Note that the best Daystate shooters the last few years were not shooting Deltas.

I think this has to do with offhand balance if using a larger scope on a bullpup Style platform? At least that was my experience.
I put a FORM stock on my ghost which shifted weight slightly rearward which improved my offhand shots dramatically

 

[cavedweller]

My experience is about like yours without the Thomas. Since I'm pretty much a target shooter, my objective is to hit the target. My new Wolverine is one of the best in that regard and I doubt the Blackwolf can do any better. I can buy two Wolverines for the price of one BW. I'm not a fiddler, so all this adjustabiilty and whiz-bang gadgets are nice, but like my FX guns, I set them up once for their intended purpose and never change them.

I have to agree with you regarding the Wolverines! And you’re right, 2 wolverines for one blackwolf !