FX Time to decide, either FX Dynamic 22/500 or FX Crown 22/500

[PennyPincher]

THe vendor I am buying from says they will have a shipment of these 22/500 guns in about 2 weeks. I will order one when they notify me. I do not hunt but just target shoot on my property. I own a FX Dream that will shoot consistently shoot 1" groups at 50 yards and 2 inch or less groups at 75. I want a gun that shoots 1" at 75 and 2" at 100. I just don;'t know if the Crown will do it.

Dynamic. Fx touts it's strengths as accuracy and power. The accuracy in that is shoots in the same catefory as the Panthera, their bench gun, and everythiing I read claims them to be super accurate. The Power: FX claims is higher than most in shooting 70 plus footpounds converting to more accuracy at longer ranges than others like the Crown.

Crown MKll: These are tried and true guns, claimed to be very accurate guns wth a good reputation. But apparently not as powerful as the Dynamic.

I would like to have the Crown, BUT, common sense ask's me. Why, given the choice of the two guns similarly priced would I chose the lesser powered gun? Therefore the deliema. Your opinions would be much appreciated. PS. These two are the only guns I am considering and only in a 500mm.

 

[Vana2]

An interesting dilemma.

I have a .22/500mm Crown MK2 and like it very much. I'm getting half inch groups at 50 yards but not shot paper beyond that. Taken lots of grackles at 60-65 yards with solid center-mass hits so I know it's shooting well out to there.

Don't have the Dynamic but do have a .22/700mm Panthera with the same internals as the Dynamic. The Panthera high-flow valve is efficient and very consistent. The Dynamic would give you more power if you wanted to try slugs.

I prefer the .22 caliber myself and accept the challenge that it's not going to do as well as larger calibers beyond 75 yards.

As far as which PCP, it depends on how much you like the Crown and how important the extra power/extended (maybe) range is to you.

(I've discovered that good groups are VERY dependent on the shooters skill LOL!)

In the situation you described, I'd go with the more modern Dynamic even if I didn't want/need the extra power. (Though, personally I'd want a 600mm)

It's hard to go by specs. I'd recommend handling/shooting both PCPs before deciding if you have the opportunity.

Cheers and good luck!

 

[Trucker3573]

I probably wouldn’t spend the money a crown with a nice stock is calling these days. However, doesn’t mean I would personally buy the dynamic because of unpleasant aesthetics. If you don’t mind the look of the dynamic it is the better gun for about the same money for sure. I would like to point out though. The dreamline is completely capable of producing the accuracy you are seeking out of either the crown or dynamic. The dreamline platform itself isn’t the limiting factor.

 

[Kgphotos]

I have both. Well actually I have a Panthera and not a Dynamic but they are basically the same. I absolutely love my Crown MK2's. I have two of them. However, I much prefer the tuning ability on the Panthera. The only real drawback to the Crown is that you have to remove the stock to make the fine hammer spring adjustments. Both my Crowns are the MK2 and have Saber Tactical chassis stocks. Taking those off every time you want to make fine adjustments to the hammer spring is a bit of a pain. The Dynamic block on the Panthers solves that problem. My Panthera is set up with a second tank on the front and I have a total of 780cc of air on the rifle. The way I set it up is like I now have the Crown MK3 .
Kenny

 

[forrest342]

THe vendor I am buying from says they will have a shipment of these 22/500 guns in about 2 weeks. I will order one when they notify me. I do not hunt but just target shoot on my property. I own a FX Dream that will shoot consistently shoot 1" groups at 50 yards and 2 inch or less groups at 75. I want a gun that shoots 1" at 75 and 2" at 100. I just don;'t know if the Crown will do it.

Dynamic. Fx touts it's strengths as accuracy and power. The accuracy in that is shoots in the same catefory as the Panthera, their bench gun, and everythiing I read claims them to be super accurate. The Power: FX claims is higher than most in shooting 70 plus footpounds converting to more accuracy at longer ranges than others like the Crown.

Crown MKll: These are tried and true guns, claimed to be very accurate guns wth a good reputation. But apparently not as powerful as the Dynamic.

I would like to have the Crown, BUT, common sense ask's me. Why, given the choice of the two guns similarly priced would I chose the lesser powered gun? Therefore the deliema. Your opinions would be much appreciated. PS. These two are the only guns I am considering and only in a 500mm.

With airguns it’s all about the wind. More power will allow you to push heavier projectiles faster and buck the wind more.

I have an FX Crown MK2 380mm, in 25 caliber. I’m very happy with it! It’s pretty much a 1- 1.25 MOA gun out to 100 yards with pellets. No real modifications have been made to it. I’ve shot quite a few (maybe 10) 1”, 5 shot 100 yard groups with it under absolute perfect conditions. I’m talking about those evenings when it’s 30 minutes before dark and the air is so still smoke won’t sway one way or another. With the slightest breeze groups open up to 2 inches plus.

So the crown is easily capable of the accuracy you’re looking for. It’s a matter of are you trying to achieve that accuracy under perfect conditions or under more realistic wind conditions?

 

[DNF]

One different consideration, Crown has 25 o-rings, panthera and likely dynamic has 39.

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I have a Crown .22/500 and love it, not a powerhouse but more accurate than I am. Sub inch at 75 with 18 and 25 gr JSBs should not be a problem. Also had pretty good luck with light NSA slugs 17 & 20gr.

 

[EPG]

THe vendor I am buying from says they will have a shipment of these 22/500 guns in about 2 weeks. I will order one when they notify me. I do not hunt but just target shoot on my property. I own a FX Dream that will shoot consistently shoot 1" groups at 50 yards and 2 inch or less groups at 75. I want a gun that shoots 1" at 75 and 2" at 100. I just don;'t know if the Crown will do it.

Dynamic. Fx touts it's strengths as accuracy and power. The accuracy in that is shoots in the same catefory as the Panthera, their bench gun, and everythiing I read claims them to be super accurate. The Power: FX claims is higher than most in shooting 70 plus footpounds converting to more accuracy at longer ranges than others like the Crown.

Crown MKll: These are tried and true guns, claimed to be very accurate guns wth a good reputation. But apparently not as powerful as the Dynamic.

I would like to have the Crown, BUT, common sense ask's me. Why, given the choice of the two guns similarly priced would I chose the lesser powered gun? Therefore the deliema. Your opinions would be much appreciated. PS. These two are the only guns I am considering and only in a 500mm.

As you state that you are primarily a target shooter, do you plan on shooting pellets - or are you also planning on shooting slugs?

 

[Ta-Ta Toothie]

Get the 500mm King. Better looking then the Dynamic and you will have a better supported barrel then the Crown.

 

[PennyPincher]

I APPRECIATE the comments so far. I intend to shoot mostly pellets in the gun and just seeking more range and accuracy at longer ranges than I have now. The Crown issue of the stock removal to adjust the hammer spring is important And a negative about the Crown, BUT that is over ridden to a great degree in that the Crown has far less O rings to fail. One negative for the crown and one negative for the dynamic. The O rings number is the ONLY reason I have not already decided to order the Dynamic already.

 

[EPG]

I APPRECIATE the comments so far. I intend to shoot mostly pellets in the gun and just seeking more range and accuracy at longer ranges than I have now. The Crown issue of the stock removal to adjust the hammer spring is important And a negative about the Crown, BUT that is over ridden to a great degree in that the Crown has far less O rings to fail. One negative for the crown and one negative for the dynamic. The O rings number is the ONLY reason I have not already decided to order the Dynamic already.

Hi PennyPincher,

OK, since it’s primarily pellets, I’d highly recommend the Crown.

I run the 30 and 40 Yard Challenge thread here on AGN. Our leaderboards show the .22 Crown to be an excellent performer at those distances. There are many on the leaderboard. The Crown was designed to shoot pellets. The Dynamic platform was designed with slug shooting (PRS) as primary focus.

The stock removal to adjust hammer spring preload is not significant. Once you set the internal adjuster so that the 12 on the external wheel is in the middle of your usual range, you likely won’t touch the internal adjuster again. If you were switching back n forth between .22 and .30 calibers or shooting slugs - then the stock removal to adjust MIGHT come into play.

Another interesting data point to consider… I have the 380mm, 500mm and 700mm .22 barrels for my Crown Mk2. I had it tuned to shoot the 15.89g at 885 fps. I swapped the barrel (Crown is a super easy barrel and caliber swap rifle - another plus) for the 500mm… and it shot the 18.13g at 885fps - without touching the reg pressure OR hammer springer wheel ! Perhaps lucky, but super convenient. I have not tried the 700mm barrel yet, but I will with the 25.4g.

I’d recommend that you PM NAProf (Greg). He owns two Crown Mk2s and also bought an FX King (Dynamic block). He is a competitive field target shooter and darn good at the 30 & 40 benchrest Challenges too. He is also a very knowledgeable tuner of the Crown. Greg is a pellet shooter and he struggled to get the King to perform as well as his Crowns with pellets. He can provide you some firsthand insight - tell him EPG sent you, lol.

I have not found a more accurate .22 than the Crown Mk2. I own RTI, multiple Daystate, Taipan, Weihrauch, Benjamin, and multiple FX .22s. I shoot benchrest at least 4-5 days a week.

I hope this helps your decisioning,

-Ed

 

[coastal drifter]

I have owned 7 FX rifles and everyone has shot .5 @50 so, IMHO you just need to decide which one you like the looks of better.

 

[PennyPincher]

Hi PennyPincher,

OK, since it’s primarily pellets, I’d highly recommend the Crown.

I run the 30 and 40 Yard Challenge thread here on AGN. Our leaderboards show the .22 Crown to be an excellent performer at those distances. There are many on the leaderboard. The Crown was designed to shoot pellets. The Dynamic platform was designed with slug shooting (PRS) as primary focus.

The stock removal to adjust hammer spring preload is not significant. Once you set the internal adjuster so that the 12 on the external wheel is in the middle of your usual range, you likely won’t touch the internal adjuster again. If you were switching back n forth between .22 and .30 calibers or shooting slugs - then the stock removal to adjust MIGHT come into play.

Another interesting data point to consider… I have the 380mm, 500mm and 700mm .22 barrels for my Crown Mk2. I had it tuned to shoot the 15.89g at 885 fps. I swapped the barrel (Crown is a super easy barrel and caliber swap rifle - another plus) for the 500mm… and it shot the 18.13g at 885fps - without touching the reg pressure OR hammer springer wheel ! Perhaps lucky, but super convenient. I have not tried the 700mm barrel yet, but I will with the 25.4g.

I’d recommend that you PM NAProf (Greg). He owns two Crown Mk2s and also bought an FX King (Dynamic block). He is a competitive field target shooter and darn good at the 30 & 40 benchrest Challenges too. He is also a very knowledgeable tuner of the Crown. Greg is a pellet shooter and he struggled to get the King to perform as well as his Crowns with pellets. He can provide you some firsthand insight - tell him EPG sent you, lol.

I have not found a more accurate .22 than the Crown Mk2. I own RTI, multiple Daystate, Taipan, Weihrauch, Benjamin, and multiple FX .22s. I shoot benchrest at least 4-5 days a week.

I hope this helps your decisioning,

-Ed

I really appreciate this helpful insight. Thank you. You are just the guy to ask since you are into the precision shooting. I generally shoot only 18.13 pellets in my other rifles so this is what I will likely shoot in a new Crown MK2. With the 500 barrel shooting the 18.13 pellets accurately at 885 what are your settings? When I get a rifle I would like to try those as a first tune.

 

[coastal drifter]

880-910 should shoot well. factory tunes have always been good in my pellet shooters. When the wind blows you just have to learn the holds for wind speed, direction and distance. It can be tricky for even the best shooters.

 

[EPG]

I really appreciate this helpful insight. Thank you. You are just the guy to ask since you are into the precision shooting. I generally shoot only 18.13 pellets in my other rifles so this is what I will likely shoot in a new Crown MK2. With the 500 barrel shooting the 18.13 pellets accurately at 885 what are your settings? When I get a rifle I would like to try those as a first tune.

Regulator pressure on my Crown Mk2 is 132-135bar according to the gauge.

I’ve only shot 18.13g since this spring with my Crown. My personal opinion is that the 18.13g is the best pellet JSB makes - and I’ve shot just about every pellet they make.

Attached are my results with the Crown since spring. Its the highest scoring average rifle of the 15 PCPs I own. At 40 yards, it puts up incredible results - an honest mid-190s 40-Challenge rifle and low-190s 40-Masters rifle across all wind conditions.

The 10-ring on the targets are .125” diameter and the X diameter is .04”. So we are shooting at a 10 ring smaller that a pellet head.

I have also been shooting it at 47 yards with some nice results - you can see those scores mixed in.

I have not done much precision shooting with 18.13g beyond 50 yards, so I can’t speculate on how the Crown/18.13g combo would do at say 60 yards.

Is it my favorite rifle to shoot - nope. I’m a trigger snob and FX trigger design is lacking. But it is my most accurate rifle from 50 yards in - and that’s the distances that air gunning is all about.

Hope this data helps your decision,

Ed

 

[PennyPincher]

Wow, what a wealth of great information to use in decideing which to go with. In spite of the fact that there is limited knowledge of 100 yd shooting of the crown the other comments regarding accuracy are very impressive. I truly appreciate all the advice as it is do much more worthwhile than looking at paid testimonials on U tube. Thanks again.