To look through steel

[crowski]

Today is different for me but hugely entertaining. I took six of my guns with iron sights out for a gentle comparison. What a hoot. First up HW30 .20. I had a target set up 10 meters away for a reason.

Just got this baby, no scope yet. I was able to get excellent groups, but found it difficult to see sights. This next rifle is my garbage find. FWB 300

Haven’t shot it much. Stop the clock. Should have my mind examined, what a gun. Five quick shots.
Where did these go? And why?
Get them back.

I really like these peep sights. Way easier to focus. This puppy is going to see a little more light. Nothing short of amazing. Talk about set the stage.
‘Next is another new gun a HW50 .20. maybe 10 rounds through it.

Once sighted in it held its own. Again I had trouble focusing but doable. This one will be joined at the hip one day, sweet guns.
‘This is my last score. I was looking at 3 rifles, I meant to grab the 350 mag. but I grabbed a D460 .22 by mistake.

This gun kicks like a mule, but accurate. I have it in .177 as well. I find the plastic sights a turn-off, but effective. This next rifle is the same gun with a different skin. K98 .22. I found out that were the same 2 days after first shooting it.

Man these rifles hit hard. Not used to it. One big difference is the sights. I like the 98 hands down on right.

Comparing these two rifles to me doesn’t make sense. I think the 98 has way more metal cast parts vs. the 460 which a strong seller in their line up.
This next rifle is the FWB 124 Sport.

This was the second easiest to aim. No wonder. This gun needs peep sights.
I think with a little time that 300 would never miss. My favorite today. The sport was second but was in the outfield compared to the 300.
I’m going to be on the prowl for these sights for a few other guns.
Impressed on sighting the target with these!
Which sights do you recommend for me to hunt for? Old or new?
Crow

 

[.20calguy]

Today is different for me but hugely entertaining. I took six of my guns with iron sights out for a gentle comparison. What a hoot. First up HW30 .20. I had a target set up 10 meters away for a reason. View attachment 365157Just got this baby, no scope yet. I was able to get excellent groups, but found it difficult to see sights. This next rifle is my garbage find. FWB 300View attachment 365158Haven’t shot it much. Stop the clock. Should have my mind examined, what a gun. Five quick shots.
Where did these go? And why?
Get them back.
View attachment 365159I really like these peep sights. Way easier to focus. This puppy is going to see a little more light. Nothing short of amazing. Talk about set the stage.
‘Next is another new gun a HW50 .20. maybe 10 rounds through it.View attachment 365160 Once sighted in it held its own. Again I had trouble focusing but doable. This one will be joined at the hip one day, sweet guns.
‘This is my last score. I was looking at 3 rifles, I meant to grab the 350 mag. but I grabbed a D460 .22 by mistake. View attachment 365165This gun kicks like a mule, but accurate. I have it in .177 as well. I find the plastic sights a turn-off, but effective. This next rifle is the same gun with a different skin. K98 .22. I found out that were the same 2 days after first shooting it.View attachment 365167Man these rifles hit hard. Not used to it. One big difference is the sights. I like the 98 hands down on right.View attachment 365168
Comparing these two rifles to me doesn’t make sense. I think the 98 has way more metal cast parts vs. the 460 which a strong seller in their line up.
This next rifle is the FWB 124 Sport.View attachment 365181This was the second easiest to aim. No wonder. This gun needs peep sights.
I think with a little time that 300 would never miss. My favorite today. The sport was second but was in the outfield compared to the 300.
I’m going to be on the prowl for these sights for a few other guns.
Impressed on sighting the target with these!
Which sights do you recommend for me to hunt for? Old or new?
Crow

Kind of hard to talk after that lineup!
I dreamt about an FWB once. Lol
For shooting I like peeps, if I had my choice I would prefer an adjustable iris. I drilled and tapped my trigger guard, to hold two iris's, so I have three sizes with the gun, but one adjustable iris would be the cats meow.
Also i prefer a hooded post sight, because sunlight from differnt angles influeces your point of aim. If the sun shines on the right side of your post you'll shoot right and vice-versa. A hooded post will shoot straight.
Beautiful collection!
I was just looking at that peep on the FWB and that is a peep sight is like one I've never seen before. I've only shot Williams other than M1's etc.

 

[Kgphotos]

I like the FWB300. What beautiful rifles. Why do you call it your “garbage find” rifle?
Kenny

 

[crowski]

I like the FWB300. What beautiful rifles. Why do you call it your “garbage find” rifle?
Kenny

I chased that rifle for 6 months. The story goes it came out of a dumpster. It’s got the marks to prove it. I figure it was in an estate and someone just threw it out. Crow

Kind of hard to talk after that lineup!
I dreamt about an FWB once. Lol
For shooting I like peeps, if I had my choice I would prefer an adjustable iris. I drilled and tapped my trigger guard, to hold two iris's, so I have three sizes with the gun, but one adjustable iris would be the cats meow.
Also i prefer a hooded post sight, because sunlight from differnt angles influeces your point of aim. If the sun shines on the right side of your post you'll shoot right and vice-versa. A hooded post will shoot straight.
Beautiful collection!
I was just looking at that peep on the FWB and that is a peep sight is like one I've never seen before. I've only shot Williams other than M1's etc.

Thanks and Thanks for that hot tip on the sun lite, makes sense. Crow

 

[mj102]

FWB300 tyro is a gem in any condition. Shame someone would throw in dumpster. At least now with someone who appreciates it. Nice collection , nice shooting. Mike

 

[cjtamu]

MDriskill going to be your guy to talk peeps. You found out what most of us have. Rear notch sight just no bueno with old eyes.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Tried to find the thread and think it was at GTA , but if your 98 has this front sight a guy found a post kit that fit . He was wanting the lolly/ ball post .

As you see the post is removable and can be swapped out . I recall remove the setscrew and maybe unscrew the post ..



Anyway if you could find that thread he showed what was what and worked

 

[crowski]

FWB300 tyro is a gem in any condition. Shame someone would throw in dumpster. At least now with someone who appreciates it. Nice collection , nice shooting. Mike

I understand. I have two spoken for of mine. Can’t imagine what happens to the rest, when I’m gone. Crow

MDriskill going to be your guy to talk peeps. You found out what most of us have. Rear notch sight just no bueno with old eyes.

Old age is not for the weak. Constant battle. Crow

Tried to find the thread and think it was at GTA , but if your 98 has this front sight a guy found a post kit that fit . He was wanting the lolly/ ball post .

As you see the post is removable and can be swapped out . I recall remove the setscrew and maybe unscrew the post ..

View attachment 365313View attachment 365315

Anyway if you could find that thread he showed what was what and worked

Thanks, I’ll try to find, not good at searches.
I found the sight as is was accurate at 10 meters. At 30 yds. it was a guess, couldn’t see front sight.
You can shoot the lites out with open sights. You would be a laser with peeps.
Crow

 

[MDriskill]

Nice pics of some nice rifles!

The Williams FP-AG is a good traditional choice for a sporting aperture sight. Its adjustable mounting base will fit any of these dovetails. This is a not truly a match sight, but a lightweight, small peep intended to leave you with a good view of the target area. And still a huge step up from breech-mounted notch sights.

For a more precise match diopter sight as on your lovely FWB 300S Tyro, HW's and Dianas will take any sight made for the standard-ish 11 mm grooves. HW made their own diopter for years that will work (but old Diana match sights will NOT fit their modern rails...go figger). Personally I like old Anschutz sights.

On the FWB sport, I'm not sure what size its dovetail is; on older FWB's it's about 11 1/2 mm. You might see if the sight on your 300S will fit it, but BE CAREFUL doing that. Turn the clamp knob all the way out before taking the sight either on or off, and be sure it's aligned with the transverse grooves in the receiver before tightening it, or you will scratch the gun (The bolt nestles into one of these grooves to keep it from silding).

Old Williams sight on an HW (this is actually not an FP-AG, but looks nearly identical).

Classic HW diopter. These were made with both 13mm (older) and 11mm (newer) dovetails, be sure you get the latter.

Anschutz "Universal" sight on 11mm HW rails.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

I understand. I have two spoken for of mine. Can’t imagine what happens to the rest, when I’m gone. Crow

Old age is not for the weak. Constant battle. Crow


Thanks, I’ll try to find, not good at searches.
I found the sight as is was accurate at 10 meters. At 30 yds. it was a guess, couldn’t see front sight.
You can shoot the lites out with open sights. You would be a laser with peeps.
Crow

I tried to find it cause it was pretty goo to know stuff .. could be his post or he added it to another. I just hate i cant find it to backup what i said on that . Figured youd like it being you got the gun ..

 

[beerthief]

WOW FWB 300 with what looks like ambi Trolean stock ? to bad your a 3 day drive from me

 

[MDriskill]

WOW FWB 300 with what looks like ambi Trolean stock ? to bad your a 3 day drive from me

Traditional tyro designs usually have that shallow flat "cheekpiece" on the off side. Not really sure what the idea is, and it's not a true ambidextrous design obviously - but you can usually shoot 'em pretty comfortably wrong-handed, lol.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

I tried to find it cause it was pretty goo to know stuff .. could be his post or he added it to another. I just hate i cant find it to backup what i said on that . Figured youd like it being you got the gun ..

Traditional tyro designs usually have that shallow flat "cheekpiece" on the off side. Not a true ambidextrous design, but you can usually shoot 'em pretty comfortably wrong-handed, lol.

Lol.. looks like mdriskill already pointed that post thig oit to you as well.

Iron sights

Today I pulled out my Diana Mouser K98 .22. with iron sights. This gun is amazing. Every time I shoot it ,it’s a treat. And what a tack driver. Unfortunately Diana finished off the end caps in plastic, drives me crazy. I had to put a small piece of rubber on butt, so it will lean in corner and...

www.airgunnation.com

 

[beerthief]

Traditional tyro designs usually have that shallow flat "cheekpiece" on the off side. Not a true ambidextrous design, but you can usually shoot 'em pretty comfortably wrong-handed, lol.

HMMMM new something to look for @ shows Hint = Midwest is next Saturday

 

[drpietrzak]

Very nice!

 

[crowski]

Nice pics of some nice rifles!

The Williams FP-AG is a good traditional choice for a sporting aperture sight. Its adjustable mounting base will fit any of these dovetails. This is a not truly a match sight, but a lightweight, small peep intended to leave you with a good view of the target area. And still a huge step up from breech-mounted notch sights.

For a more precise match diopter sight as on your lovely FWB 300S Tyro, HW's and Dianas will take any sight made for the standard-ish 11 mm grooves. HW made their own diopter for years that will work (but old Diana match sights will NOT fit their modern rails...go figger). Personally I like old Anschutz sights.

On the FWB sport, I'm not sure what size its dovetail is; on older FWB's it's about 11 1/2 mm. You might see if the sight on your 300S will fit it, but BE CAREFUL doing that. Turn the clamp knob all the way out before taking the sight either on or off, and be sure it's aligned with the transverse grooves in the receiver before tightening it, or you will scratch the gun (The bolt nestles into one of these grooves to keep it from silding).

Old Williams sight on an HW (this is actually not an FP-AG, but looks nearly identical).
View attachment 365342

Classic HW diopter. These were made with both 13mm (older) and 11mm (newer) dovetails, be sure you get the latter.
View attachment 365332

Anschutz "Universal" sight on 11mm HW rails.
View attachment 365341

Thanks, when I bought my phone I was more interested in the camera.
I now know why the fascination for these sights. When I sighted it in, it held like a suction cup. Going to spend more time.
I appreciate your response, and great tips, gives me some thing to hunt down. Crow

I tried to find it cause it was pretty goo to know stuff .. could be his post or he added it to another. I just hate i cant find it to backup what i said on that . Figured youd like it being you got the gun ..

I can’t remember what I did last night. I’m not good at searches. I’m blown away by what I’ve learned from members. Thanks Crow

WOW FWB 300 with what looks like ambi Trolean stock ? to bad your a 3 day drive from me

Great time of the year for a tour. Crow

 

[JDR]

I read somewhere that the FWB Sport has some of the best iron sights out there.

 

[crowski]

I read somewhere that the FWB Sport has some of the best iron sights out there.

I’m sure it is for current models.

Crow

 

[crowski]

I’m totally amazed on this gun. Couldn’t resist another round with it.

I think they used my head for a mold to make the stock. What a fit! 5 shots at each target.

Need to adjust sights.
I’m fascinated by all the versions DualMagMike posted of the 300, mind boggling. And the knowledge of MDriskill and others. Thanks Crow

 

[jkingrph]

Today is different for me but hugely entertaining. I took six of my guns with iron sights out for a gentle comparison. What a hoot. First up HW30 .20. I had a target set up 10 meters away for a reason. View attachment 365157Just got this baby, no scope yet. I was able to get excellent groups, but found it difficult to see sights. This next rifle is my garbage find. FWB 300View attachment 365158Haven’t shot it much. Stop the clock. Should have my mind examined, what a gun. Five quick shots.
Where did these go? And why?
Get them back.
View attachment 365159I really like these peep sights. Way easier to focus. This puppy is going to see a little more light. Nothing short of amazing. Talk about set the stage.
‘Next is another new gun a HW50 .20. maybe 10 rounds through it.View attachment 365160 Once sighted in it held its own. Again I had trouble focusing but doable. This one will be joined at the hip one day, sweet guns.
‘This is my last score. I was looking at 3 rifles, I meant to grab the 350 mag. but I grabbed a D460 .22 by mistake. View attachment 365165This gun kicks like a mule, but accurate. I have it in .177 as well. I find the plastic sights a turn-off, but effective. This next rifle is the same gun with a different skin. K98 .22. I found out that were the same 2 days after first shooting it.View attachment 365167Man these rifles hit hard. Not used to it. One big difference is the sights. I like the 98 hands down on right.View attachment 365168
Comparing these two rifles to me doesn’t make sense. I think the 98 has way more metal cast parts vs. the 460 which a strong seller in their line up.
This next rifle is the FWB 124 Sport.View attachment 365181This was the second easiest to aim. No wonder. This gun needs peep sights.
I think with a little time that 300 would never miss. My favorite today. The sport was second but was in the outfield compared to the 300.
I’m going to be on the prowl for these sights for a few other guns.
Impressed on sighting the target with these!
Which sights do you recommend for me to hunt for? Old or new?
Crow

I like that Tyrolean stock on the 300. Back in the 80's when I bought my 300, I wish I had sprung extra or that stock. I doubt that you will ever find another springer that accurate, they are beyond fantastic. I have thought of trying a scope on mine, but like the irons too well to try.