TRUTHS about the Brocock Atomic air "pistol"

Having followed posts and threads about the above referenced Brocock with great interest, but only yesterday had my first opportunity to actually handle one, virtue also of owning three Brocock rifles, I now feel qualified to dispel some misconceptions about the Atomic pistol. That said, until and unless I get the opportunity to actually shoot one, better yet, OWN ONE, in this post I will limit my opinions to those I feel likely to remain valid even then.

In doing my (admittedly limited) due diligence preparatory to this post, I went to the website of the same source that put an Atomic XR pistol/carbine in my hands for inspection; who, if I'm not mistaken, is the U.S. Brocock importer. I believe not only "the truth will set you free", but in this case the truth(s) can add clarity to the Brocock Atomic's reasons for being..

Being a critic of technology in general, and in this case 'airgun review' videos more specifically, I must confess to being more than a little disappointed at the volume of mis-statements/misinformation in the video review of the .22 Brocock Atomic air pistol; especially since I usually find their videos considerably above average. Within the first minute of the video misinformation began to accrue at a disheartening rate. And although the rate slowed, mis-statements and contradictions continued. That is not only not unusual in airgun reviews, but manufacturers' specs, catalogs, and for that matter, any media of any kind. I will attempt to confine myself to the most important points here.

In my opinion, from my perspective, and in contradiction to several opinions expressed on this forum in previous Atomic-related threads, the Atomic is not a rifle; it is a pistol adaptable to carbine. Why?

As the individual most responsible for defining an air “pistol” by AAFTA field target standards, I find it impossible to believe Brocock just happened to blindly stumble upon specifications for the Atomic falling SO closely within AAFTA pistol parameter limits. In fact, if you think that was a happy coincidence, I have some swamp-land for sale in Bumfukt, Texas that I'm sure you'd be interested in. 

No Sir; it was no accident that someone designing the Atomic specifications did so with an eagle eye toward AAFTA "pistol" parameters. But since (I assume) the markets for powerful and/or huge air pistols in more 'civilized' societies than the United States fall somewhere between minimal and non-existent, but the market for this awesome little gem in the U.S. is considerably more equally-divided between pistol and rifle shooters interested in this chameleon-gun, it takes no great leap of genius to understand why it is marketed in Britain (and other civilized areas) as a handy little mini carbine, but in the U.S. (and other feral localities) as (equally) a pistol-carbine. That now being better explained, this feral pistolero takes offense to repeated references in the AoA video to the Brocock pistol as a rifle. I see it as a pistol first, adaptable into a first-rate mini carbine. 

Which brings us to perhaps the most important point of this post. In contradiction to the many posts in several previous Atomic threads on this forum, the Atomic is the perfect pistol... by AAFTA pistol field target parameters. AND, it is also not a pistol at all… for anyone wondering if it is a good pistol for offhand shooting. No; it would suck for offhand pistol shooting! At least in any offhand pistol shooting other than as practiced in AAFTA Field Target.

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However, the Brocock Atomic is the best production air pistol for AAFTA Pistol Field Target competition and EXTREME Pistol Field Target competition that I am now founding. Understand that statement comes from the man that not only founded AAFTA Pistol Field Target, but has sold many 1720T model pistols for Crosman virtue of answering queries, "What pistol should I buy for Pistol Field Target?" with the response, "Unless you're willing to spend over a thousand bucks, the Crosman 1720T is the best choice". That still remains the case. But an Extreme Field Target pistol it ain’t.

The good news is the Brocock Atomic pistol is not only now the best production AAFTA and Extreme Field Target pistol on the market, and it is now on sale at AoA for only $1499, but that includes all accessories to convert it into a fantastic mini carbine! 

To all those who've criticized it as too expensive, I say, "No, it ain’t!" (especially now that it’s on sale). And I ask, "When's the last time you paid only $1499 for a top quality, regulated, super-accurate, British PCP carbine, and equally-impressive top quality, regulated, super-accurate, British PCP pistol? Wait; I’ll answer that…

Never.

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/precharged-pcp/brocock-atomic-xr-air-pistol/compact-carbine/


 
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Good to get some insight and info on the AAFTA in specific, and how this could be used in competition. For me... a pistol is useless if it can't shoot well off-hand. But I don't shoot competitions either... Maybe I'll change that some day.

I initially thought you were posting about this Brocock Atomic pistol. But clearly you are speaking of the new one with folding stock that is essentially a cut down rifle to within pistol dimensions.

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To answer your last question.... Well, I havn't, but being unregulated, and as accurate as anyone could hope for.... not bad for 300 and change on the classifieds here. Granted, I had to source the stock from AOA (last one they had). And make a trigger + guard. But out to 40 yards, it's still a laser.

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This is a Brocock Grand Prix pistol. Workmanship is better than I could ask for. The pistol stock was stolen from my storage, and I am currently in contact with Gray Cane to make a new one for it.
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Great post, but I still love it as mini carbine. In a few of the videos they do mentioned that Brocock had design the pistol to meet the requirements for Pistol Field Target. I can only agree its a pistol if you are Paul Bunyan size or, use it strictly for Field Target, For field use it seems too cumbersome as a pistol, but awesome and quick handling as a mini carbine. Enjoyed reading your post.



P.S. I have an Atomic in mini carbine form on its way too me. You guys know I'm a fan of the brand. Will post up my impressions after I've had a few days. My intent is to set it up for rough kid usage in our Junior Sportsmen Program, some pesting and plinking also along the way.
 
For such a concise post, your latest not only speaks volumes on may levels BB, but hits the nail quite squarely on the head. Thanks for the compliment(s), and the tongue-cheek humorous delivery. Love it!

And your comparing my writing style to gaudily colorful dirigibles full of hot air couldn't be better. Let's face it, in The Jet Age an aircraft that "flies" at snail's pace needs all the help it can get to attract attention; be it from grounded spectators, drone pilots, or jet pilots sharing the same airspace!

So in this day and age of incessant visual, auditory, and mental (over)stimulations, my little attempts to attract whatever shrinking numbers of readers can still comprehend, much less appreciate reading for entertainment, I believe it necessary for my writing to not only be a gaudily colorful dirigible full of hot air, but constantly enough so to not lose the attention of ever-more attention deficit readers for even a moment by making every sentence entertaining, informative, and/or provocative enough they simply can't look away.

Other analogies for my writing would be a train-wreck, freak show, and ambulance chasing. 

It's a thankless job; but somebody's got to do it... lest reading go extinct. Underneath all my bull-s***, I'm really a humanitarian attempting to save a threatened species.

Really. ;-)
 
LGD, yes the Grand Prix was a nice little PCP pistol. Here's an excerpt from Airgun Chronicles about my experiences with my .22 and a buddy's .177-

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I like how well you keep everything documented. And those are surely impressive groups! I've also always appreciated you gaudy comments and posts as well.
 
Excellent writing and points. From the very first time I saw the Atomic “pistol” I figured it has a very specific use case and it is not what “normal” people would consider as pistol. It is literally just as much as a pistol as the 1720T I personally own which I also do NOT consider it as pistol. Sure they both fit competition specifications as pistol but us “normal” folks look at it and think that ain’t no 1911! had they specifically said or sell it as competition target pistol like the 1720T then it would of made a world of difference! Crosman did a great job of specifically advertised the 1720T as field target pistol…..very explicitly spelled out its intended use case. 



Definitely agree on some of the “review” videos with horrible attempt to shoot it offhand that look just silly! When is was the last time anyone shot 1720T offhand? 


like many of us have been saying, there is nothing wrong with the atomic besides VERY BAD MARKETING!




 

like many of us have been saying, there is nothing wrong with the atomic besides VERY BAD MARKETING!




The bad marketing is the insistence by some that it’s a pistol. I have one on the way that will never see use as a pistol. It’s a pistol for a teeny percentage of users, the majority will appreciate it for what it is. An awesome, robust mini carbine that can take punishment as per Dana’s torture test of one. 
 

like many of us have been saying, there is nothing wrong with the atomic besides VERY BAD MARKETING!




The bad marketing is the insistence by some that it’s a pistol. I have one on the way that will never see use as a pistol. It’s a pistol for a teeny percentage of users, the majority will appreciate it for what it is. An awesome, robust mini carbine that can take punishment as per Dana’s torture test of one.


oh nice! It is a superb ultra compact carbine with a folding stock from just the look of it. Can’t wait to see you put it to the good fight! 




 
My 1720 is a pistol, my Prod is a pistol, when I put a stock on any one of them they become a carbine..My SW44 Mag is called a pistol; it is harder to shoot than any Crossman or Benjarman "pistol" ..how bout this, it ain't a pistol if it can not be holstered...nay That wouldn't work either...I know you call it whatever you like and I will too....I call mine Fatso and the other Burrito.
 
@boscoebrea, we get that those Crosmans are cumbersome pistols, with poorly designed OEM stocks. Not so with the Atomic/Ranger which sport a great stock suited to the mini carbine platform. The Crosmans are marketed as cumbersome pistols that can be converted to awkward carbines with their OEM stocks. Unless you spend more coin still for a custom stock you have to cobble those Crosmans. All the patting each other on the back and cutesy postings are unnecessary.
 
Dang.

After having to take a day or two off this forum in order to negotiate multiple bureaucratic obstacle courses, so hopefully avoid (re)incarceration (that's a joke, BTW), I was a little n-n-n-nervous to return to this thread for fear of finding a kangaroo court, lynch-mob, or word police waiting in ambush. Worse yet, possibly a negative review of my writing by the dyslexic literary critic! ;-)

Unfortunately I returned to find worse than any of those scenarios. Conflict among friends!

I recall, decades ago, jumping in the middle of constant, incessant, vicious arguments between my dad and step-mother that always broke out at family holiday dinners. All other witnesses would just try to keep their heads down in hopes the combatants would eventually cease and desist; which, if left to the combatants own devices, would never happen. I eventually learned to inject shock therapy in order to bring about armistice... at least long enough for innocent witnesses to become refugees fleeing the scene of the carnage(s).

The last time it happened I (literally) jumped between the combatants at the dinner table while blurting, "Why don't y'all just SHUT THE F*** UP; nobody wants to hear this s***!" They did (shut the f*** up); long enough for innocent bystanders to finish dinner in pregnant silence... then flee the scene of the carnage! 

After the innocents had made their escapes, as I helped clean up and wash dishes my step-mom paid me one of the best compliments I've ever received (especially considering I'm often the one that stirs up s*** around here). Ginger said, "You've always been the peace-maker, Ronny." 

Much as I enjoy stirring the pot, I really hate seeing loved-ones go at one-another. So considering the conflict here would hardly rate a 2 on the one-to-ten Robinson-Clan Conflict Scale, I'll forego the bold, CAPITALIZATION, and exclamation point! in respectfully requesting, "Why don't y'all just shut the f*** up; nobody wants to hear this s***"... 

And also tell you all that I make that request because I love you. 

Sincerely and Respectfully,

Ronny

P.S.- Yes, I recognlize my hypocrisy in being the s***-stirrer attempting to be peace-maker. This won't be the first time I vow to try to use that realization to affect some semblance of self-improvement. And although this probably won't be the last time I make that vow (again), hopefully I make progress in my attempted self-improvement program; even if it's one baby-step at a time.

Happy Shooting, Y'all :)


 
Some more fuel for the "pistol" discussion. 

A long pistol and a short rifle. Both are blurring the lines. (And the "rifle" has an aftermarket barrel that is 3 ish inches longer than factory!!!) 

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I've seen and held the Atomic XR and it's bout like the yellow one above, in the oal department. 

I've heard many pistol field target competitors use the name "pifle" to refer to their rigs. 

The fact that the Atomic XR was designed with dual use in mind (fit in the pistol ft rules but capable of being a carbine for the rest of the time) simple makes the gun provide more bang for the buck.