Typical accuracy of new airguns

I have owned and tested lots of airguns over time, and feel the claimed average group sizes of many, if not most airgunners shooting standard new airguns is overstated.

Now there have always been some models that typically shoot tighter groups than most, often much tighter, but I don’t think the average intrinsic accuracy of airguns has improved much, if at all in the last thirty plus years I have tested airguns seriously.

Granted, results are generally much better nowadays than thirty years ago at ranges beyond 30 yards, but I opine its the PELLETS that are better, giving results far better even with old guns than they ever did with pellets of old. The airguns were never intended for hole-in-hole accuracy at fifty yards back then, as that was target powder burner territory … so pellets were made to deliver minute of beercan accuracy at that range.

So how good are modern run-of-the mill airguns now? I’d say a typical best thirty shot rested outdoor group at fifty yards using standard ammo from a typical mid-priced ($300-$600) airgun will be around 1.5” center to center of the widest shots. Go back to popular pellet designs that are still around, like flatheads, hollowpoints, and some pointed models and groups will be lots bigger.

The best over the counter, mass-produced gun/pellet combinations around would reduce the above 1.5” 30-shot outdoor efforts to just over an inch, but with light breezes shifting from 1-4 mph I would suspect that would be about tops. Sure about any of em will sometimes put several in a row into the same hole, and maybe once in awhile put five into the same hole at 50, but other groups from the same session will be many times that size,

The reason we all see and brag on sub-half inch groups nowadays is because we mostly only look at the best 5 shot groups of the day, discounting groups with “fliers”. Heck, I used to carry a 3/8” five shot fifty yard group fired from my old HW77 using Crosman lites I cut out and had in my wallet. I still have a gun just like it and it can still shoot (some) half-inchers if there is no wind to speak of, but its a one-in a dozen similar rifles I didn't keep.

So, if a new gun you just got “only” does middling groups, well thats normal! Clean the barrel, try a few pellet weight/velocity combinations, clean some more, and it will often get better over time (if you are a good shot).
 
I agree to a point. 30 shot groups would be bigger for many reasons, the gun, pellets, conditions, shooter. As for a single 1/2" five shot group at fifty yards? I agree and is why I shoot at least 4 or more consecutive 5 shot groups. And have been able to achieve consecutive 1/2" five shot groups (good conditions, shooter on point). Does it mean I can do it always? No of course not, but I do expect my PCP to easily shoot 3/4" groups at 50 yards and it does, consistently. And I don't discount flyers, some might, I don't, my groups are all inclusive.
 
I agree to a point. 30 shot groups would be bigger for many reasons, the gun, pellets, conditions, shooter. As for a single 1/2" five shot group at fifty yards? I agree and is why I shoot at least 4 or more consecutive 5 shot groups. And have been able to achieve consecutive 1/2" five shot groups (good conditions, shooter on point). Does it mean I can do it always? No of course not, but I do expect my PCP to easily shoot 3/4" groups at 50 yards and it does, consistently.

Agree. And for most hunting or pesting, group size isn't as important as first shot accuracy.
 
@bandg, yes! First round hits is what I prize, every shot thereafter is but a group. You don't group on pests or game, and one shot is all you get most times. When I shoot three pellets into a slightly elongated hole at fifty, I just call it good as no pest is safe from that. Yes, two, or seven more shot would definitely open that up, but again I'll never get five let alone ten shots at the same critter😄
 
@Uhfradarwill, I prefer to believe that some might embellish, many shooters here have posted consistently accurate groups at various ranges. Myself personally I could never talk up a gun that I knew for a fact, through usage to be inaccurate. Only a salesperson would do that. Some PCPs are capable of amazing accuracy, most shooters, me included? Not so much. 
 
I agree to a point. 30 shot groups would be bigger for many reasons, the gun, pellets, conditions, shooter. As for a single 1/2" five shot group at fifty yards? I agree and is why I shoot at least 4 or more consecutive 5 shot groups. And have been able to achieve consecutive 1/2" five shot groups (good conditions, shooter on point). Does it mean I can do it always? No of course not, but I do expect my PCP to easily shoot 3/4" groups at 50 yards and it does, consistently. And I don't discount flyers, some might, I don't, my groups are all inclusive.

Well,

Statistically speaking, a group of thirty shots is just almost enough to cover 99% of the shot group probability under exactly the same conditions. Remember the finished group has one defined center, Now if you shot five shot groups, each a the same type bull or aimpiont, cut them out and overlay them together, you will see enough shift in group centers to agree the overall combined group would have been larger than the average of the five individually.

Consider this as well: The considering 10.3gr .177 pellets @ 9wind drift from no wind to 4mph is: 1mph = .29”, 2mph=.56” 3mph=.84” and 4mph=1.12”.

The affects of these small wind variations alone would make an extremely competitive field target rig hard pressed to stay WITHIN a tight circle. Even a pretty good shot cannot judge tiny wind shifts perfectly at 50 yards, so yes, small groups are common, but they don’t always agree with the aimpoint.


 
"Some people lie their asses off"

And you know how to separate those from the rest.

Yes I do.

It goes something like this"

"3 shots in the same hole at 268 yards"

Or

"My rifle shoots sub MOA groups at 100 yards"

and they never post targets or videos.

Some here I have great respect for and I count on what they say.

Others, you can tell they are full of bull kaka!!
 
And so, there is a difference between “accuracy” and “precision” that most shooters confuse or ignore. Precision can be judged by group size, and is best evaluated in near perfect conditions such as with no wind and from a solid benchrest setup.

Accuracy is the ability to put one shot exactly (or as close as possible) into the intended aimpoint. In the old days, benchrest competion was about precision, and group size was the criteria, with all shots being deliberately off the aimpoint due to the sight setting. Nowadays, nearly all benchrest competition is about accuracy, rather than precision, so one shot is fired at a series of identical targets and each hit scored for how close it is to being perfectly centered.

Accuracy at longer airgun range is as much a test of shooter skill as gun capability, and for typical airguns, 50 yards IS long range. 

Really precision shooting with regular lower powered (non-magnum, in Beeman parlance) airguns gets iffy after 25 yards. For this reason, very high powered guns using heavier pellets or even slugs are becoming more popular, but I feel the trend disregards the real value of typical airguns in the smaller calibers by limiting them to more open spaces and destroying some utility by requiring flags, rests, benches, stools, spotting scope and the like.


 
typical, well ive bought quite a few midrange air guns in the past year .. what ive come to expect from a pcp anyway, is 'minute of squirrel' out to 45ish ... a couple are 'more deadly' than others ie a couple im not surprised with a miss on a long shot like say 60 ... and a couple are almost magic, ie run and grab it and nail something at 60 moving almost every time ... but yeah, the way i see it a midrange gun (most) can take advantage of a 1" kill zone out to 45ish and thats about the drop trajectory as well on average speed and easily compensated for out to 55ish... so its all gravy .. with most of them ..some have sub-standard parts and machine work, you may find a pellet that balances out in it but likely not too well ..
 
"Some people lie their asses off"

And you know how to separate those from the rest.

Yes I do.

It goes something like this"

"3 shots in the same hole at 268 yards"

Or

"My rifle shoots sub MOA groups at 100 yards"

and they never post targets or videos.

Some here I have great respect for and I count on what they say.

Others, you can tell they are full of bull kaka!!

I don’t believe most are deliberately lying about good groups at long range, I think they don’t understand or accept that if you shoot enough groups, so e will be good, and you will remember and cite those, and the bad ones will be ignored for reasons like “pulled that last one”, wind picked up, “prolly a bad pellet” or whatever.

But fact is most shooters are more ignorant about statistical probability than they care to admit, and will always assign shooter skill the ability to overcome statistical probability of a given shooting session. This is why so few shooters routinely evaluate with thirty or more shots in the same group under controlled conditions … they honestly fail to see the value of it.
 
"they honestly fail to see the value of it."

"The value of it" is a relative thing. Might be very important for some types of shooting and not important at all for others.

Bandg,

The VALUE of understanding accuracy capabilities under controlled conditions related to being honest or correct regarding accuracy claims. You make my point in saying its a “relative thing” … I say most folks aren’t lying, they simply don’t understand that some results are not truly representative.

In golf, sometimes a hole-in-one is observed, but they are not repeatable.
 
"they honestly fail to see the value of it."

"The value of it" is a relative thing. Might be very important for some types of shooting and not important at all for others.

Bandg,

The VALUE of understanding accuracy capabilities under controlled conditions related to being honest or correct regarding accuracy claims. You make my point in saying its a “relative thing” … I say most folks aren’t lying, they simply don’t understand that some results are not truly representative.

In golf, sometimes a hole-in-one is observed, but they are not repeatable.

Therealld

The value of first shot accuracy is the most important thing to many. YOUR view that 30 round groups are so valuable is possibly valid for you, but is not for others. It is not valid at all for me and is not just related to the concept of being honest about groups in any way.
 
The typical accuracy of precision air rifles is very good. So good, in fact, that anyone shopping for a rifle with reliable hunting accuracy out to 50 yards or so, could choose blindly and have a capable rifle. As far as interpreting reported group measurements, well, that's exactly what they are, so who knows? But I'm convinced of one thing. Anyone who uses their rifle to actually hit an aiming point, whether critter or bullseye, after initial testing, there is no need to ever shoot another group. Practice marksmanship, technique. Otherwise, you're just testing equipment, and your practical shooting ability isn't improved.