Umarex Umarex Legends MP40 questions

[thom]

I have one of the Umarex Legends MP40 semi and full auto guns. Mine is evidently an early one as the magazine has no latch to hold the follower & spring back when loading the BBs. Anybody else have the same problem? Ever tried to modify the magazine to cure the problem? Anybody know if the later production mags, with the lockback feature will work in the early guns?

 

[JayDee24ca]

When I had a mag like that I took a small drill bit and drilled though at a spot where I could insert a brad nail in to hold the spring back. It worked well.

 

[jackinelgin]

I made a tool to hold the spring back,some improvised speed loaders too.

 

[scarland]

I made a tool to hold the spring back,some improvised speed loaders too.

 

[scarland]

I use straws.

 

[scarland]

Does anyone know what the older umarex mp 40 is vallued at? I have one with two mags. There the original mags not altered.

 

[scarland]

Here's a pick of my mp40

 

[borne2fly]

I'm waiting for my MP40 to arrive. Can hardly wait. Meanwhile, is there any way to reduce the rate of fire? Lighter bolt spring, maybe? I've heard about using heavier ammo or adding weight to the bolt but I'd prefer something kinder to the seals if possible.

 

[scarland]

I have no idea. I'm sure there is something you can do but the b.b. part. I use Hornaday black diamond b.bs. there the ones that work with the mp 40. If there are others that work with it please let me know.

 

[borne2fly]

The MP40 arrived! Ran a few clips of Hornaday Black Plated bbs through it, a mix of semi and full auto. No jams, nice rate of fire, good heft and feel. I’m liking this a lot already!

 

[borne2fly]

I’m getting dime-sized groups at 10 yards on semi-auto. Better than I expected from a BB gun, but still not sure if that is good, bad, or normal for the MP40

 

[borne2fly]

Anyone know what this knob is for?

 

[ninersix]

Anyone know what this knob is for?

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Fake oil container, it has no purpose on the gun except the make it look like the original. The Real (MP-38/40) has this as the toggle release for the upper and lower to separate to field strip the gun.
But this is a C02 BB gun (and NOT THE REAL MP38/40); so it is only for cosmetic appearance, nothing more.

 

[ninersix]

I’m getting dime-sized groups at 10 yards on semi-auto. Better than I expected from a BB gun, but still not sure if that is good, bad, or normal for the MP40

Normal for this BB gun. I get the same result, now with a stand it is a slightly longer range. Most gun clamp stands will not fit type of BB gun that will allow to strap the gun into my gun stand (long clip). These are smooth barrels, no rifling in the barrel. At 30 feet with C02 gun that is about it; however with practice 45- 55 feet feet is achievable but the bullseye is more luck than aiming.

 

[borne2fly]

Fake oil container, it has no purpose on the gun except the make it look like the original.

Thanks! That had me running in circles trying figure it out

 

[ninersix]

Thanks! That had me running in circles trying figure it out

Yeah, I found out from a Umarex review some time ago that is was just window dressing.

 

[borne2fly]

Normal for this BB gun. I get the same result, now with a stand it is a slightly longer range. Most gun clamp stands will not fit type of BB gun that will allow to strap the gun into my gun stan (long clip). These are smooth barrels, no rifling in the barrel. At 30 feet with C02 gun that is about it; however with practice 45- 55 feet feet is achievable but the bullseye is more luck than aiming.

30-40 feet is good enough for me. The fun (IMO) of this thing is full auto, which is pretty much limited to close range anyway. We do have other stuff for long range accuracy
And this MP40 is just for fun. But the M712 is a bit more ... still select fire but small enough to carry and a surprisingly effective anti-snake gun. My go-to when hiking in the outback.

 

[ninersix]

30-40 feet is good enough for me. The fun (IMO) of this thing is full auto, which is pretty much limited to close range anyway. We do have other stuff for long range accuracy
And this MP40 is just for fun. But the M712 is a bit more ... still select fire but small enough to carry and a surprisingly effective anti-snake gun. My go-to when hiking in the outback.

I have thought about the gun (M712) but after a review of all the complaints and defective parts, e.g. the barrel. the plastic clip holder are but a few. I just cannot go ahead and buy one; I might as well flush down $100-130 dollars down the toilet. If Umarex really wants to make its way in this market they must make an effort to insist the Taiwanese maker to improve the quality of their manufacturing. I AM VERY SELECTIVE ON WHAT I PURCHASE.
No; the guns are not made In Germany or us anywhere else in Europe. Japan used to have a stranglehold on this market but over time Taiwan has taken the lead almost completely. The Guns are made in Taiwan; where just about every other BB gun, Non Guns, replica Guns etc. and falsely sold as made somewhere else in wherever! There are very small exceptions but not many. The completed parts are made in Taiwan and the parts are shipped to wherever and assembled and boxed with its own branding.


IN MY HUMBLE OPINION!

 

[borne2fly]

I got the KWC M712. Metal gun, metal clip. The barrel shroud does suffer from loosening, just like the P08, and tightening the barrel screw only works until the threads strip or the screw goes in far enough to kink the barrel. In both cases I pulled the shroud and reinstalled it with epoxy (remove all paint on the mating surfaces first!) and now both are solid shooters. The M712 is surprisingly accurate with black diamond BBs. I leave it on full auto whenever I’m hiking in snake country.