Snowpeak Umarex/Snowpeak magazines suck

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I have an Umarex Notos and Zelos, both in .22 and both made by Snowpeak.
The airguns are great, but the magazines are crap.

The Notos magazines, do not align properly in the receiver and have to be pushed by hand into a position where the bolt can push the pellet into the barrel.

One of my Zelos magazines stopped working in a week.
The internal magazine drum stopped rotating.
The magazine is impossible to open and have more info here:

Umarex - Umarex Zelos broken magazine

One of the magazines does not have any spring tension anymore and the drum inside the magazine will not turn. I assume the spring attached to the drum and the bottom of the magazine has somehow disconnected itself. Does anybody know how to fix this ? I cannot figure out how to disassemble the...
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The 15 years old Marauder style magazines work well, are cheap, and can be easily disassembled and fixed.

So Snowpeak (the manufacturer) !^#@^#@%@$#@^

And Umarex (the distributor/seller) !$&%$@&%$@^%$@
 
I guess you needed to vent. I've been shooting my P35-25 with stock SPA magazines today. Occasionally I have to giggle the cocking lever a little because a pellet isn't feeding right but they definitely work. Just not great in my opinion. I should check Maple but Carm doesn't offer a flush fitting magazine for the 25 caliber P35.

For my other two P35s I just use Carm magazines. They work great. I like them better than the magazines that came with my Caiman X because the spring pressure is so much lower.

I'm not saying you are wrong about SPA magazines, they definitely could be a lot better. But when good ones are pretty inexpensive and I wanted more anyway it doesn't seem like anything to get too bent out of shape over.
 
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JimD said:
I guess you needed to vent. I've been shooting my P35-25 with stock SPA magazines today. Occasionally I have to giggle the cocking lever a little because a pellet isn't feeding right but they definitely work. Just not great in my opinion. I should check Maple but Carm doesn't offer a flush fitting magazine for the 25 caliber P35.

For my other two P35s I just use Carm magazines. They work great. I like them better than the magazines that came with my Caiman X because the spring pressure is so much lower.

I'm not saying you are wrong about SPA magazines, they definitely could be a lot better. But when good ones are pretty inexpensive and I wanted more anyway it doesn't seem like anything to get too bent out of shape over.
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I have spent at least 30 minutes trying to get a Umarex Zelos magazine to work.
No luck.

Still I would rather have a good airgun with a bad magazine than a bad airgun with a good magazine.
 
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nobody1 said:
The Marauder style magazines are cheap, work well and are easy to maintain.

They are used in many airguns:
Marauder, Avenger, Nova Liberty, Umarex Origin, Umarex Gauntlet, etc

Why does Snowpeak try to reinvent a wheel and make it worse?
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Easy buddy !
You nailed it. Rather have a great gun an a bad magazine than the other way around

They use to sell 500 hp Scatpak Challengers with 245 width rear tires
( worthless with 500 ponies )
Yet people bought them and changed the tire width 🫡🇺🇸👍🏻
 
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SPA only sent one of their magazines with my P35s. Maybe they knew people would not highly value a second SPA magazine.

I looked and I think Carm only has magazines for the M60/Zellos in 177 and 22. Maples has those plus 25 and 30 calibers and are a few dollars cheaper. I've never used a Maples but others speak highly of them. If they offered a 25 caliber magazine for my P35 that fit flush I would buy one or more.

For anybody that doesn't know, SPA magazines require you to load the first pellet backwards from the back of the magazine. That is not really bad in my opinion because it then holds the spring of the magazine and you are not fighting it as you load the other pellets. Carm magazines let you load all the pellets nose first. You have to hold against the spring but it is light and not difficult. My complaint about the SPA magazines I have is just that they do not consistently feed smoothly. The body seems to be metal which some prefer. I don't mind durable plastic in a magazine.
 
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JimD said:
SPA only sent one of their magazines with my P35s. Maybe they knew people would not highly value a second SPA magazine.

I looked and I think Carm only has magazines for the M60/Zellos in 177 and 22. Maples has those plus 25 and 30 calibers and are a few dollars cheaper. I've never used a Maples but others speak highly of them. If they offered a 25 caliber magazine for my P35 that fit flush I would buy one or more.

For anybody that doesn't know, SPA magazines require you to load the first pellet backwards from the back of the magazine. That is not really bad in my opinion because it then holds the spring of the magazine and you are not fighting it as you load the other pellets. Carm magazines let you load all the pellets nose first. You have to hold against the spring but it is light and not difficult. My complaint about the SPA magazines I have is just that they do not consistently feed smoothly. The body seems to be metal which some prefer. I don't mind durable plastic in a magazine.
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I can load the pellets any way the magazine wants.
I just want the magazine to actually work.
After you shoot, the next pellet should pop up.
 
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nobody1 said:
The problem with the Zelos/M60 magazine is that I have no idea how to open it up.
If I could open it up I could probably fix it.
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I had a mag that seemed bad on mine. I spun it one way then the other. Seemed to have zero spring tension. Tossed it down on the table irritated. When I picked it back up it mysteriously worked. Makes zeros sense or maybe I was losing my mind with my Zelos problems.
When I was looking at my mag. It appears that center hollow post screwed together. Kinda like a Chicago screw if you’re familiar. Definitely looks like two sections where one screws into the other. Might even be left hand threads.

Good luck
Rob
 
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