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Fantastic research, testing and information, sir!
I doubt that anyone outside of the Umarex R&D dept. has put as much time and effort into the Canex as you have.
My hat is off to you for your tech savvy, too. The trigger pull videos are nice. (I am a flip phone guy. My Mrs. gave me this device so I can communicate with fellow airgunners.)
The peeps look very good, and I have no doubt you will continue to perfect them.
jIC you haven't done it already, just cleaning the barrel usually makes a difference in accuracy (most airgun barrels are downright filthy out of the box). IMO, the mild steel used in airgun barrels is best lapped with JB bore paste and a nylon brush. This combo will polish nicely and not damage rifling.
As to the most accurate pellet for a particular air rifle, my experience is to feed the air rifle a variety of pellets and it will decide which ones it likes best. More expensive/higher quality does not necessarily mean more accurate, it just means more consistent in size and weight and final cleaning. I have many air rifles that shoot more accurately with Walmart Crosman Premier Hollow Points than with JSB's.
My favorite air rifles are the ones that like cheap pellets best. For even better results I can just clean them with dish soap, remove the peewee's and jumbo's, and then hit the bullseye for less the 2 cents apiece.
 
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Thank you. I tried to follow what I've read others do recently on Airgun Nation. I don't think I could have found more budjet subject than the Canex. And maybe my tinkering will help someone else at some point. Thank you for the advice for my next step. I have some 150lb mono fish line I think I can make a pull through cleaning kit from. I like your advice on the pellets. I can easily make a sorting gauge. I found a couple that fell right through the magazine. Sorting for size sounds easier that weighing. I do have a powder scale. I hope it doesn't get that far. Now the Canex rifle #1. I ran into trouble the second mag. The pellet in front of the barrel slipped half into the barrel and locked up the gun. So I set it to the side and moved my scope over to #2. The next 30 shots went OK but I could tell shooting too quickly, it took longer for the pellets to hit so I dug out my sound chronograph which is a phone app. Chrono Connect. There are a lot of negative review but in my mind it's a functional tool. It get kicked because peaple try to wrongly compare it to a real chrono which only tells the speed over the chrono where this is the speed from the muzzle to impact. Then I ran into a magazine that rubbed on barrel. I found that the metal insert / mag advaner are just a light press into the plastic wheel and can easily be pushed completely out on all of the mags. Then at the end of the co2 I had a pellet lock up in mag and barrel. I found a brass brazing rod worked perfict to push the pellet back by way of the muzzle. Now I had a steel bb go under my thumb nail and out when I was 12 year but remember it like it was yesterday. This is why I wouldn't recommend these rifles, as they are, to a kid or a novice. Now the smart thing to do would have been to de-gas before but I'm old and don't have that much time left. Haha. So my idea is if I make a rocker with a a hole for the center mag pin and one for the pellet so it swings in to line up with the barrel and locks in place this will make a perfect solution as a single shot. The mag advancing pawl can scratch air. Now for the other issue. If the trigger is squeeze very slowly the sear will give a 3 round burst. I had this happen 3 times on two different rifles over 100 some shots. Of course there's only one pellet in line with the barrel. I checked the hits and they all were even in the black. Now the last thing that I see could happen and probably common since and we'll known to co2 peaple is getting a pellet stuck in the barrel. I think I will de-gas after 40 shots. I'll take your advice and the next step is to clean and get an assortment of pellets. I like the idea of going to local places and buying what is commonly found for pellets. If I find one gun doesn't shoot as well, I'll do some research on barrel lapping. At that time I'll pull it apart and post some pictures of how these rifles are put together. It's been a lot of fun and I think shooting with the iron sights gave my eyes some much needed exsersize.
 
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Just hearing about that bb going through your thumbnail made my thumbnail hurt, haha. Today's young folks will never get to have the kind of adventures and fun we had as kids in the 20th century. And maybe it is for the best. I sure had some good times, and a couple of trips to the ER for tetanus shots or stitches. And I wasn't even the daredevil type.
Back to the 21st century and the Canex, I assure you any posts will be appreciated now and by the guy who gets his first Canex 5 years from now. All of my how-to knowledge has come from old posts by airgunners who were nice enough to share what they learned.
Strange as it sounds, I will work on my car or washing machine without a thought, but working on an airgun makes me so nervous I need to go to confession first, and I am a protestant, haha.
Your single shot loader sounds like a winner.
The triple hammer strike you mentioned is a mystery, and I would love to know what you find out.
BTW, I use a 'sort as you go' protocol for sizing pellets: as I load each pellet, I simply go by feel if it fits too snug or too loose in the mag orbreech, I just push it out of the mag or shoot it to off the side.
 
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I understand your trepidation about working on air gun internals. 5 years ago I tried replacing o-rings and such bought as a kit for a crossman 760. Apart and together quite a few times. Finally apart and never together though frustration not figuring out what I was doing wrong. I don't know if tinkering with these canex rifles will be for their betterment but I'll be happy to know that another person was helped in some way. I'm heading to the stores today to see what I can scroung up for pellets. I like the idea of flat nose cutting a nice clean hole but I'm definitely going to pick up some crossman HP. I've got to clean up my lathe so I can drill the screw in peeps for these Canex sights. I'll have 10 kits ready to put up on E-bay. It reminds me of bobber fishing. I was not sure if I did my math right but testing proved that my sights work with the factory post also. But by increasing the sight radius to 28 1/2 in and the .7 mm thread pitch works out to be the same adjustment ratio as a millitary m16 sight for adjustment increments. Not that that means much at 10 meters and the trajectory is different than a 5.56. Haha. I Also wanted to test to see about elevation requirements for 10 meters. I could shorten the the guide pins by half but then their no trouble being long. I haven't done the math but I think there's more than elevation adjustment for 100 yards. That sounds fun. Get a 10 foot diameter piece of sheet metal to try and ring it at 100y. The thought of a 10 foot diameter piece of sheet metal also gives me the willy's.
 
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Thank you. I have been a lurker there for years. I don't know proper etiquette as far as posting you yourself or if I should be starting a new thread. I have a real problem with reading and understanding so I hope I haven't missed anything in the bi-laws. Please do me the sevice of correcting me. But since I don't know any better here a go again. Made the rounds to all the big box stores to see what's was avaliable for pellets and 12gram co2. I'll write a post of specifics but before I left I checked prices on pyramydair.com and airgun depot. To too many pellet to write down and keep track of prices. But by far the cheapest 12gram as of 01/04/2025, Airgun depot is the cheapest at 500 for $230 @ $.046 ea but what surprised me was walmart had crossman 40 for $20 at $.050 ea which is the same as pyramid 100 for $50 @ $.50 of air venturi. And no shipping. And they stock the crossman premier holow points for $6.98 for 500. What I was hoping to find today was the Daisy's flat nose wad cutters airgun depot has for $2.99 for 250. Also I'm wondering if someone else has the idea of swaging store bought pellets the long way to make them larger diameter then pushing them through a sizing die like people do with cast bullets. Probably not nessasay since there's so little metal that the barrel will do the sizing. Also I wonder if it's better to clean and lube the pellets or if the speed is slow enough that lube would just pick up contaminants. Lead is after all a lubricant. That's why our old cars worked without having hardend valve seats. We were told as kids to not clean the bores of our anschutz target .22 rim fires because there was more chance a cleaning rod would do more damage than the tiny bit of smokeless powder would do through corrosion. So never cleaned for years and year on those club guns and with eley Match would consistently put bullet through the same hole non stop if I did my part. Of course I would suspect a little more care is taken with those barrels than my china made Canex. Haha. I can't wait to get some shooting / data collecting tomorrow. Today was a slow start pun intended. 2 of my 3 cars wouldn't turn over and the third was boxes in. It had warmed up to 9 Deg Celsius so one frozen starter and one old frozen battery. So I borrowed the one good car, my wife's to do my shopping.

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Oops! I hit 'post reply' by accident before I was done.
Don't worry about making a mistake posting on GTA. We adult airgunners are 90% good guys with great attitudes.
If a member of the 10% 'bad attitude club' makes an ugly reply, the rest of us just ignore them.
Adult airgunning is about fun and rediscovering the wonder of youth.
England first and foremost (and to a lesser extent, Germany and Spain) is the center of the global airgun community, so it is also about conducting ourselves as civilized gentlemen. Rude, insulting men quickly find themselves with only each other to speak to.
I struggle with computers and I still can't figure out how to post a photo on GTA or AGN after 7 years, so none of us is perfect.
I bet Anschutz makes a MUCH nicer barrel than our friends in China, haha.
I am told that a freshly cleaned air rifle bore needs a few dozen shots for best accuracy. The theory is that the lead fills in the rifling imperfections. I have seen it work on my cheap air rifles.
Many guys clean a lube pellets for their pre charged air rifles. The increase in accuracy is proven in competitive shooting circles. It can also be part of the thrill of personal best shooting or ethical 'lights out and straight to heaven' hunting.
I mostly shoot springers, so cleaning and sorting makes a big difference, but any lube must be removed or it will will ignite and make accuracy worse.
BTW, I would probably freeze to death just walking to the mailbox where you live, haha.
My Dad was in the Army and they only stationed him in cold places. When he retired and we got to come back home to the South I didn't even wear a jacket for years.
Now that I am middle aged, I am shivering at 55 degrees, haha.
 
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I completely understand. I'm all thumbs when it comes to do the simplest things on a computer. Also it does not help that I spell everything like it sounds and my brain interpret imput differently. Those individuals that feel the need to patrol and police / troll being the key word, I agree with your advice of not engaging. I truly believe negative gets you negative. Pellet cleaning will be my new standard practice. Thank you for making me aware. I never considered it. Now I'm thinking and looking into lube or not lube. This might be of some interest to you for your springer's. I hunted for years with muzzle loading rifles for deer. I cast my own dead soft lead bullets and used a few types of wax that I think had some lubricant mixed in. The wax also helped seal to keep the powder dry because the mini ball bullets I cast were undersized until the gas would expand them. I wonder if this would be an answer to dieseling. Also it might just gunk up a pellet barrel. Just a thought. My father spent some time in England just before he was sent to Omaha beach in Normandy. He spent his time picking up casualties until the wars end driving a jeep. He recieved a bronze and silver star and should have received a purple hart numaras times but did not have time to bleed. As you can imagine he had little sympathy when I showed up with a buboo. There's a small town near where I live named Embaras. It has the record for the coldest in at lease the lower 48 states. Most of us that have been out in the cold from nesestly have cold damaged our hand and feel and have reduced circulation. I froze a finger yesterday morning scraping ice from my windshield and it hasn't fully come back yet. It will. They mostly do. But I think it's common for peaple to learn where the edge of frostbite is. I've not lost any fingers or toes. I keep my house at 62 deg. I just had to change a car battery and other outdoor tasks. When I come inside to get something it feels like I stepped into an inferno so I go and check the thermostat to see that it didn't get bumped.
 
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God bless your father for his service and sacrifice in WWII. Those men were truly the Greatest Generation and tough as nails.
I have always wanted to shoot black powder. I bet it makes a man feel like a pioneer. The wax is a great idea.
All About Airguns channel on YouTube is a great resource for the best pellet lube.
Mike Ellingsworth on YouTube uses a cheap ultrasonic jewelry cleaner to clean his pellets (I have my eye out at my local Goodwill for one).
If it is okay to ask, what State do you live in?
I live in Georgia about 40 miles outside Atlanta. It has become too urban for my taste and I hope to get farther out in the country sooner or later.
Matthew
 
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I'm sorry. I had a brain glitch. Maybe it's because I invision you as such a gentleman I thought you might be from England. I am from and live in Minnesota just north of Minneapolis. My ancestors started the fur trade and their grandchildren signed the decorations of independence. That long after they fought off the Vikings when they first tried to settle. LOL! Good old American Mutt. I here what your saying about too urban. 20 year ago I hoped to some time have land where I could fire a shotgun while peeing off my front porch. But now I find it difficult to maintain what I have. Hey. I did find on here some postal matches. It might be a little embarrassing to post what I'm capable of but what the hey. I just don't know if it's OK to add in or if a person should ask before so I could be properly vetted.
 
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I'm sorry. I had a brain glitch and thought maybe you were from England. I'm from and have always lived in Minnesota. I have a good will ultrasonic cleaner, I bought in and never tried it out. I just ran across last week end. Now I have a reason. That shooting rest is from goodwill. Zoom in on the green tag in the middle of the base. As is the shirt I wore to work today. And while I was cutting a shooting lane through my basement I made a new pile of stuff that's soon will be dropped off at good will. That reminds me have a toaster oven I bought at good will for cooking powder coating on cast lead bullets. That's another interesting semi new development to keep from leading barrels. Likly way too inconsistent for pellets. If your interested there's a old man youtuber that makes me feel young who's handle is fortunecookie. Shooting and cooking is his specialty. Fun to watch. He is a bullet powder coater.
 
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Oops! Hit post reply by mistake.
I told my Mrs the EXACT same thing about moving to the country: I want to pee outside and shoot a gun for fun, just the way God intended, haha.
My ancestors mostly came over from England and Ireland dirt poor and looking for a better life 5 or 6 generations ago. They ended up in Appalachia and the South. My Dad always said we were American mutts, too: 'Heinz 57', he jokes if asked about heritage.
Thank you for the 'gentleman' compliment. I come from the lower classes, but was taught that being a gentleman, as Charles Stanley put it, "is about conversation, conduct, and character. Not money".
I get the impression you are also a gentleman.
I will look up fortune cookie on YouTube. Thanks for the tip.
 
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I 100% agree with your opinion of Beeman. I am very impressed by the build and quality for the money. I just bought my first Beeman from Amazon for $125.91 shipped to my door in 3 days. I tried researching and found only good things said about this model 2027. What I could not confirm weather the receiver was made from metal. Every web site I found said "main body Plastic". I think the Beeman Raiders are plastic receivers. I though for the money likely Plastic. It turns out it is metal and the wood is beautiful. It looks flawless. Of course at this point I don't know if it even holds air but how complicated can it be. Alongside are my first production run of Canex sights. Soon to be for sale on Ebay with the globe front and muzzle adapter. I designed these to be low profile so the rear sight works with the Canex standard front sight also and fit the Umarx Canex dovetail which is exactly the same demention of my Hammerli / Umarex 850 air magnum. These sights will not fit the dovetail on this Beeman or my Hatsan or my Benjamin maximus. I'm also making variations to fit weaver / picatinny that mount so as to not interfere with the cocking lever. Thank you for the great advice about Beeman. If I keep runing across deals like this I'm going to be making sights for many model air rifles.

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What a great deal on the 2027. BTW, it uses the Gamo/b19 style trigger group, so the trigger can be improved with a lighter trigger return spring and a longer sear adjustment screw. It can also be improved using the roller bearing mod.
The Beeman Raider does have a plastic breech, and it is a shame, IMO.
The Canex sights look fantastic. I think many airgunners would like aftermarket sights for a variety of airguns, but no one makes them. Congrats on your design and I wish you success.
I went through 3 Canex air rifles from my local Tractor Supply Co and all had striker/valve failures within 10 shots. I sent the 2nd one to Umarex for repair, and it failed within 10 shots after I got it back. I exchanged once more and gave up.
I waited like Ralphie from A Christmas Story for a year on the Canex.
I imagine we just got bad shipments to our area, but the Umarex repaired Canex failure took the wind out of my sails.
I will give them some time to work out the bugs and buy one again this summer.
The Canex was still the neatest, most fun co2 fun plinker I have ever shot for all the 40 shots I got out of my 3.
I am glad to hear you have an 850. To me, it is a serious air rifle and has the simplest, best magazines and repeater bolt for the price.
 
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