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Airgun-Revisions said:
Why do people buy their Airguns or Airgun products through big box stores or large Airgun retailers that just ship a product and take your money no matter what condition the product is in? Ex: A gun that doesn’t hold air or doesn’t function properly.
I’m not talking about the company who made the gun but the retailer who sold you the bad gun that didn’t get inspected before YOU got it. Isn’t that taking a big chance?
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A lot of these new airguns are built to fail. I think the retailers hope is that they fail after the warranty period has expired. Some fail directly out of the box like the Notos I bought after reading all the glowing reviews from folks here. It wouldn't hold air from the day I took it out of the box.
 
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Stan’s boy John said:
A lot of these new airguns are built to fail. I think the retailers hope is that they fail after the warranty period has expired. Some fail directly out of the box like the Notos I bought after reading all the glowing reviews from folks here. It wouldn't hold air from the day I took it out of the box.
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Then send it back.

OFG
 
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Airgun-Revisions said:
Why do people buy their Airguns or Airgun products through big box stores or large Airgun retailers that just ship a product and take your money no matter what condition the product is in? Ex: A gun that doesn’t hold air or doesn’t function properly.
I’m not talking about the company who made the gun but the retailer who sold you the bad gun that didn’t get inspected before YOU got it. Isn’t that taking a big chance?
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Why phrase your question as if you are the smart one and anybody that buys through a box store is a moron?

Why on earth would that matter to you? How does their purchase affect you? How is it a big chance if they can just bring it back for a refund?
 
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Airgun-Revisions said:
Why do people buy their Airguns or Airgun products through big box stores or large Airgun retailers that just ship a product and take your money no matter what condition the product is in? Ex: A gun that doesn’t hold air or doesn’t function properly.
I’m not talking about the company who made the gun but the retailer who sold you the bad gun that didn’t get inspected before YOU got it. Isn’t that taking a big chance?
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My first PCP was purchased from a dealer, to my knowledge was never tested, when it went belly up I sent it back, got the itches after a few weeks of them shining me on so i bought a Maverick Vp from them, I know that wasn't tested, had they done that they'd have found the bad o-ring on the #1 reg. A year later got my replacement gun, it was garbage, shot like a shot, gun . Tried EVERYTHING and nope not happening, I asked for my old barrel, they charged me for it, now remember they had my gun for a D'mn year. So, buyer beware, make sure the people you deal with are REALLY reputable.
 
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I don't want to take the chance of buying a lemon,It can still happen when buying from let's say Pyramyd Air But, they test them if you get the 10 for 10 which i get and if something does come up they can make it right, I wish all the dealers would offer that service. When i order a gun, i want it yesterday lol.Some of the pcps are a good chunk of money. A Good dealer will stand behind their products and they are knowledgeable, Not someone who just reads off the box and tell you what you have already know. LOL
 
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My first recent (in the last 40 years) airgun was a Gamo break barrel I bought off of Cabelas years ago. It worked fine. I ordered it, heard nothing from them, and received it. It worked. My second gun was a Hatsan Factor FX I bought from Amazon. Ordered it, heard nothing from the seller, received it and it worked great. Still does... it's an amazing rifle. So good, in fact, it makes me question all the hate I see for Hatsan products. But, I don't question it out loud, as the Factor rc is the only Hatsan product I've had any experience with.

Then I bought an FX Impact M3 from Utah airguns. I ordered it and a dude named Travis CALLED me an hour later. He thanked me for choosing Utah airguns and asked if I had any questions. Well, I did have questions as I'm pretty new to these things. he stayed on the line and answered all of my questions which resulted in changing a few things I had ordered. The also set up and tuned the gun before shipping. Ultimately, the conversation saved me about $400. Can't say enough good stuff about the folks at Utah airguns.

Point is, it doesn't matter where you buy something. Of course the experience will be better with a reputable company that deals solely in Airguns, but there's a million good reasons to use whoever has what you want for the money you're willing to spend. Knocking where and how people spend their own money seems a little Karen-ish.
 
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Airgun-Revisions said:
Why do people buy their Airguns or Airgun products through big box stores or large Airgun retailers that just ship a product and take your money no matter what condition the product is in? Ex: A gun that doesn’t hold air or doesn’t function properly.
I’m not talking about the company who made the gun but the retailer who sold you the bad gun that didn’t get inspected before YOU got it. Isn’t that taking a big chance?
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Labor costs. The failure rate is so small that it isn't worth spending that much time on every order. You also have to consider the training level of the person filling the orders. They probably would not know if it was good or not anyway.
 
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People buy stuff from places because they expect that what they buy will work. That doesn't sound unreasonable, does it? Not seeing that it's something that can come from a specialty shop makes a difference. If a mfr can't build a gun that can make it to a customer in working order, then the mfr needs to rethink their manufacturing process.

Different people have different priorities. I'll never ever spend anywhere near a grand (or half that) for an airgun. That juice just isn't worth the squeeze, in my book.

J~
 
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AOA has a BSA Goldstar listed for $1299.00 on Amazon the same gun is for sale through Ransony for approximately $999. ? $300. Difference - I chose Ransony and the gun is fantastic. Yes it did appear to have sat in inventory for a while - but still worked fine and I used the money I saved for a Huma regulator and Shroud - !
I have however spent thousands at AOA so ……..
 
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Treefrog said:
People buy stuff from places because they expect that what they buy will work. That doesn't sound unreasonable, does it? Not seeing that it's something that can come from a specialty shop makes a difference. If a mfr can't build a gun that can make it to a customer in working order, then the mfr needs to rethink their manufacturing process.

Different people have different priorities. I'll never ever spend anywhere near a grand (or half that) for an airgun. That juice just isn't worth the squeeze, in my book.

J~
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You have never shot a quality pcp like a Airforce Texan or a Bushmaster.
 
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357cal said:
You have never shot a quality pcp like a Airforce Texan or a Bushmaster.
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Yes. I shot a Daystate and a few others like it while back. I used to spend a lot of time at Tim McMurray's shop and at some of the shoots that he held (as a range officer and NRA certified rifle instructor). The guns were all nice, just not that-much-money nice. If I can hit a fly at ten yards (and I can) with my QB, I'm satisfied.

I see many complaint threads about PCP rifles here and it makes me wonder why that is so. Heaven knows the QB-78 needed some help when I got it, but I knew that when I bought it and derived a lot of joy from making it shoot to its potential.

Cheers,

J~
 
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