UPS - no firearms shipping policy
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I'm sure there's someone with the right lawyer to find that liability and sue and win ..lol
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There would be none.
But if a guy shipped a gun and called it an airgun there would be.
It would be much better to just sidestep the entire issue and make a policy that said no guns of any kind shipped between individuals. Then when a guy shipped a gun he would have to call it a paper puncher and the shipper would have no liability at all.
It wouldn't hurt business and it would eliminate any risk. Especially if you have another company accepting the packages for shipment. Thats probably one of many reasons why they are subbing out the customer interface.
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Not true at all. The united states postal service ships handguns all the time, normal citizens cannot, but FFL holders can. The usps price for shipping handguns is a small percent of Fedex or UPS who both require next day air and going to a hub in person to ship. I sent a really nice collectable PB revolver to a member on this board across the country, the package weighed over 20lbs, was oversize for about 10-12 percent of what Fedex wanted. I used a mom and pop FFL I deal with here to ship it, they only charge USPS cost + 10 dollars for the transfer, unlike most FFL's around here that will rape you on the price. of both shipping and the transfer fee. Never checked on UPS since nearest facility that accepts firearms for shipping was too far to drive.
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Correct. If you go back to the OP's original post, the assumption is an unlicensed shipper.
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There are a whole lot of other shipping routes. Lots of private carriers are networked to ship freight.
Some ship to and from private individuals. Some ship between warehouses. If you are willing to pick up and deliver from a shipping hub you can ship about anything you want. If you are willing to pay for doorstep delivery some freight outfits can do that too.
Many FedEx shipments are delivered by private carrier. They are subcontracting delivery like UPS is subcontracting the customer counters. Freight companies subcontract these same services to get it from the shipping dock to your door.
I shipped hand made furniture with a trucking company and it cost very little. The buyer had to arrange transportation from the dock. It was less then than I pay now to ship a Hatsan back.
Ill bet there are shipping networks already in place that can handle airguns with no problem at all.
Some ship to and from private individuals. Some ship between warehouses. If you are willing to pick up and deliver from a shipping hub you can ship about anything you want. If you are willing to pay for doorstep delivery some freight outfits can do that too.
Many FedEx shipments are delivered by private carrier. They are subcontracting delivery like UPS is subcontracting the customer counters. Freight companies subcontract these same services to get it from the shipping dock to your door.
I shipped hand made furniture with a trucking company and it cost very little. The buyer had to arrange transportation from the dock. It was less then than I pay now to ship a Hatsan back.
Ill bet there are shipping networks already in place that can handle airguns with no problem at all.
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Same. i answer no questions except the ones i really need to. I found out that if you offer to much information someone that knows much less will think they know much more then u lol.
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I just ship usps. There is a post office or two in every town . I show up with a box and its shipped. no fuss no muss.
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Read the article and you will see that the UPS policy was directed at a ghost gun manufacturer not a legitimate FFL broker/retailer.Seemed not long ago ups thought there law enforcement .
UPS Cancelling Gun Dealers’ Accounts, Destroying Packages in Transit
United Parcel Service is terminating the accounts of gun dealers. Any packages currently in the UPS system may be “seized and destroyed.”www.ammoland.com
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Just like speech, firearm shipping should be free
And just like speech it should be unregulated just like shipping guns to criminals & circulating lies that affect people's lives
And just like speech it should be unregulated just like shipping guns to criminals & circulating lies that affect people's lives
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You have a good point
They are not law enforcement
However, it makes little sense for UPS to allow a manufacturer known to be making, selling, and shipping illegal weapons to who-knows-who to want to continue that activity.
They could literally lose ALL their shirts.
Edward
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Your opinion if illegal or 2ed infringement.
Unlike you I guess I don't really like my rights chipped away to nothing so I look at it as another infringement.
That ghost gun is a buy den ex order infringement that folks let roll them over and chip chip chip away your rights as usual .. right ?
Sad but true you allow it to happen and then one day you'll wake up with nothing but them knocking at your door ...
" UPS man .. we're here to confiscate and destroy your stuff" ..lol
Your rights aren't being chipped away by the UPS policy. This isn't oppression. Nor is it a second amendment issue.
No one is going to come knocking at your door. No one is discussing confiscation. There is no boogeyman.
Businesses are free to make whatever policy they feel is necessary to limit their liability. If they don't want to ship certain items that is their right. Not a violation of yours.
It's a bummer you can't just ship UPS anymore. Its an even bigger one if you start believing it's an evil plot to infringe on your rights. That must be a very burdensome fantasy to nurture every time a policy changes.
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