Urgent letter to all air gun shooters in the USA. PLEASE READ.

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There is just too much money to be made by folks; the inevitable manufacture/marketing of more power to keep up with powder burners.
Not saying this is everybody at all, definitely the FULLY automatic crowd.
Divide and conquer is the strategy… the “fully automatic crowd”? How about the crowd that is quick to judge? Or, quick to try and divide our community? How about simply trusting others to be as law abiding as yourself? Any tool can be misused by bad humans.
 
I'm pretty sure I've read every post, I've seen one about supporting an Air Gun Assoc. I'm of the mind that's not a bad idea but supporting those organizations that have been fighting the insane laws that the left keeps coming up with. I'd suggest if you don't support the Second Amendment Foundation, Fire Arms Policy Coalition, the GOA among others. There are lawsuits out there to can the overreach but, even when the SCOTUS smacks them down the leftist ignore the rulings, because the DOJ has other plans, and they do not include out best interests or the rights of a free people.
 
I cringe when I see such videos. What are those content creators thinking? My thought is they are not thinking of the potential damage to the community but are selfishly aiming for views.

The video maker claims that he wants to warn people contemplating shooting birds off a wire with a 9 mm Leshiy, about what the projectile will do to a human 150 yards away. That may be the goal, but what will be the consequences?
 
I guess they are going to flip their lids when they find out that almost anyone over 18 can mail order black powder muzzle loaders, and even cap and ball revolvers (in most states). Not considered firearms, unless used in the commission of a crime - including brandishing.

Other than being slow to load, muzzle loaders and large bore airguns have enough ballistic overlap to suggest comparison.
 
The video maker claims that he wants to warn people contemplating shooting birds off a wire with a 9 mm Leshiy, about what the projectile will do to a human 150 yards away. That may be the goal, but what will be the consequences?
The same nonsense of 12 ft lbs or a special license and having to register your butter knives.
 
Nobody needs anything airgun related. They are a luxury item. My take on the full auto thing is it’s just another avenue in the airgun industry. It’s a shame we had to go down it. But with this hobby blowing up in the past couple years, it was inevitable. Now we are at the mercy of hope. The hobby has evolved to the point we all have to hope people don’t do stupid things enough times to show a pattern.
Sadly people/humans in general are stupid. Its sad times we are in.

I bet those using air rifles to put food on the table or eliminate pests would argue against your statement. They CLEARLY have a need and practical use that they can't get with PB's.
 
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I'm pretty sure I've read every post, I've seen one about supporting an Air Gun Assoc. I'm of the mind that's not a bad idea but supporting those organizations that have been fighting the insane laws that the left keeps coming up with. I'd suggest if you don't support the Second Amendment Foundation, Fire Arms Policy Coalition, the GOA among others. There are lawsuits out there to can the overreach but, even when the SCOTUS smacks them down the leftist ignore the rulings, because the DOJ has other plans, and they do not include out best interests or the rights of a free people.
Sadly all too often, organizations, while good when they start or started with good intentions and ideas, become corrupt. One only has to look at the unions, militias, or worse yet the NRA and here in ohio, buckeye firearms association. They have become part of the problem, not the solution, while the leaders get rich off the masses.

I would be worried the same would happen with an airgun association. Sadly there's no easy or clear answer.
 
"They are coming for your guns" has been the false rallying cry of a certain political party for decades now. In fact this is the same party who's leader said on TV "Let's take their guns and then give them due process".

Pfffffffftttttt
Youve not been paying attention very much then have you? More and more rights and essential liberties are infringed upon, PRIMARILY by one party in the states but not exclusively. It is happening just slowly subtly so that most don't recognize it until its too late. Too many frogs not recognizing the dangers.
 
Youve not been paying attention very much then have you? More and more rights and essential liberties are infringed upon, PRIMARILY by one party in the states but not exclusively. It is happening just slowly subtly so that most don't recognize it until its too late. Too many frogs not recognizing the dangers.
Lol go back to Faux News bruv.
 
Lol go back to Faux News bruv.
Now you are showing your ignorance. Its rather sad. Fox is biased one direction and usually doesnt hide it, cnn and many others are biased the other direction but try to convince themselves and others they aren't.

I on the otherhand watch observe, question, and challenge and draw from many sources, even sources that I trust. Its not wise to blindly take things at face value.

Sadly with your response and attitude it shows that you lack critical thinking and the ability to truly see whats going on. Its people with this mentality that sadly made the plandemic so successful and why the vast majority failed the test run.
 
"They are coming for your guns" has been the false rallying cry of a certain political party for decades now. In fact this is the same party who's leader said on TV "Let's take their guns and then give them due process".

Pfffffffftttttt
Wait, the left DOESN’T want to take our guns??? 😂 They only scream it from the rooftops every time there’s any kind of shooting……..You’re not too bright, are you.
 
I agree with the goals of this effort and want to make sure our hobby is not obliterated.

One thing that I would like to point out though is that the CAUSE of this issue is NOT that the “Karens” on “the other side” wanting to take away our stuff – the problem is that our political / election system is so messed up that only the extremes from BOTH sides of the aisle get through it to be on the ballot in the first place. They then fight back and forth frothing up the republic on the issues that they know lead to the greatest fights and attention, as it is what fuels their “industry” (don’t think for a minute that these folks don’t have careers and vested interests in maintaining how things work in this area).

The problem is that the bulk of our legislature is no longer made up by rational people that collectively represent or are willing to compromise to achieve what the majority of Americans want our government to do. This is due to two fundamental forces - a news industry that is upside down and a primary system that puts the extremes from BOTH sides on the ballot for the general election.

I believe that if we revise our political / election system to something more along the lines of ranked choice voting that most of this garbage would all just go away – because the people in office would be more moderate and thus more representative of reasonable compromised legislation should be.

For example, take the topic at hand – air powered weapons. What percentage of the country really believe that these, as a class, are a problem? I’d bet it is WAY less than 5%. What percentage, with a little education, might think there are aspects of it that could be a problem? We know that is MUCH higher, because even many of us are worried about it. So in a moderate rational legislature there is NO WAY that all air guns could be banned, but there might be a path to some restrictions (likely in the area where air guns are overlapping with firearms). But in our current legislative environment it is easy to see a total ban because is all about which group of extremists (either the right or the left) are in control.

Anyways, as we work on the issue of preserving our sport and hobby, please also be open to actually doing something that could fix this (and many other) issues long term – support efforts to fix our actual political processes. I’ll offer this up as one of many sites that explain or support it: https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/ranked-choice-voting/

To those that say just be sure to vote for a particular party, I’ll say that really does not work as that party (one I’ve voted for all my life) has, in my opinion, recently lost its mind (especially in my state of Michigan). Anyways, in the end doing so just perpetuates the fight, rather than solves the problem . . . Pick pretty much any contentious national topic – neither party is willing to deliver what the vast majority of the country wants on the topic. This needs to change.

But I do support working to keep our sport and hobby going too.
 
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