UTAH AIRGUNS NOW CHARGING SALES TAX?

[LongRangePrecisionA.R.H.]

Utah Airguns is now charging sales tax?
I was looking at making a pretty hefty purchase from mdt “the competition chassis brand” but they were sold out of something I was interested in well I remembered UtahAirguns also sales their stuff and sure enough they had the item I was interested in so upon placing it in my cart and getting around to checking out I was kinda stunned that they were charging me sales tax because over the years they never did which is one of the really cool bonuses when shopping with them. so if the item on the website was 100 bucks you paid maybe $12 in shipping and so it’d be $112 dollars NO sales tax. So yeah I was pretty bothered that they started doing that it’s probably because of some law I really don’t know but it’s definitely gonna impact my purchasing decisions from them in the future because they don’t necessarily have the fastest shipping times so that combined with the sales tax does annoy me. But dont get me wrong i respect what they do for the airgun industry and the community and I really think they are a great group of guys and I’ll still shop there and support them regardless because they do a lot for us they are the US Fx airguns service center and that’s a big responsibility and they have a big team that cares about the sport so yeah I’m definitely not done doing business with them I just wanted to point that out it does suck but hey it is what’s it is maybe they’ll go back to not charging it who knows. UPDATE I live in California and I was wondering if maybe changing the shipping address did anything and yup it does they are charging just California customers sales tax no other state! That Sucks if it’s some legal reason I get it but man that’s some bs!

 

[Reg Creep]

FWIW, many counties and localities have been loosing out on large amounts of sales tax revenues since the dawn of internet sales. Heck I live in a county that doesn't even have much in the way of brick and mortar sales. So, I take solace that my sales tax dollars are coming back to support my local community.

 

[Martin3528]

Utah Airguns is now charging sales tax?
I was looking at making a pretty hefty purchase from mdt “the competition chassis brand” but they were sold out of something I was interested in well I remembered UtahAirguns also sales their stuff and sure enough they had the item I was interested in so upon placing it in my cart and getting around to checking out I was kinda stunned that they were charging me sales tax because over the years they never did which is one of the really cool bonuses when shopping with them. so if the item on the website was 100 bucks you paid maybe $12 in shipping and so it’d be $112 dollars NO sales tax. So yeah I was pretty bothered that they started doing that it’s probably because they are building a brand new shop from the ground up or they’re preparing for tariffs getting a Headstart on potential price increases I really don’t know but it’s definitely gonna impact whwt I buy from them in the future because they don’t necessarily have the fastest shipping times so that combined with the sales tax does annoy me. But dont get me wrong i respect what they do for the airgun industry and the community and I really think they are a great group of guys and I’ll still shop there and support them regardless because they do a lot for us they are the US Fx airguns service center and that’s a big responsibility and they have a big team that cares about the sport so yeah I’m definitely not done doing business with them I just wanted to point that out it does suck but they do need to cover some serious expenses so hey it is what’s it is maybe they’ll go back to not charging it who knows. UPDATE I live in California and I was wondering if maybe changing the shipping address did anything and yup it does they are charging just California customs sales tax no other state! That’s f**ked up if it’s some legal reason I get it but man that’s some bs!

Man, lighten up. There are numerous laws and reasons shops have to collect sales tax. Apparently, California is one of those with more stringent sales tax requirements. Surprise Surprise! It is not the fault of UA, nor are they adding it on just for the fun of it. Most shops use large accounting programs to determine how much, who and what taxes have to be collected. It is no reason not to give them your business. Move to a different state if the extra money is that important to you. Real first world problems.

 

[LongRangePrecisionA.R.H.]

Man, lighten up. There are numerous laws and reasons shops have to collect sales tax. Apparently, California is one of those with more stringent sales tax requirements. Surprise Surprise! It is not the fault of UA, nor are they adding it on just for the fun of it. Most shops use large accounting programs to determine how much, who and what taxes have to be collected. It is no reason not to give them your business. Move to a different state if the extra money is that important to you. Real first world problems.

Easy to say when it doesn’t affect you. When you make a $2000 purchase and they add 100+ in sales tax now when they didn’t before it kind of stings I explained that I understood and that it’s probably a legal reason I do live on the border of Arizona California so I’ll just have my stuff sent to an Arizona address no big deal

 

[Peashooter]

The sales tax in Denmark is 25%, so your 2K rifle just got a bigger price.
Fortunately here, things like that is in the price tag, so not a nasty surprise for later.

When introduced in the late 60ties as i recall that sales tax was 9% and only a temporary thing to tie Denmark over in a slump, but damn thing still here.
And it is NOT a item up for discussion about removal or lowering even by the most mad of our 179 people in charge,,,,,, okay maybe 1 of them but that’s also it.

 

[Martin3528]

Trust me, it affects me. I buy stuff from all over the country. Sometimes, I get hit with sales tax and sometimes not. Sometimes I get free shipping, sometimes I do not. It's all part of the deal for having the convenience of ordering almost anything you need or want on-line and having it in just a couple days (usually).
Next time you see tax, shipping or something else come up and get all bent, call up the company and see if they will discount it by the tax amount.

I just ordered a custom cover for my BBQ grill. After I placed the order, I received an email giving me 20% off on my first order. I thought - too late now and kind of laughed it off. Then I decided to send the company an email and voila, they refunded me the 20%.

My point being, instead of getting all excited and mad at UA, and coming on here to complain about something they probably have no control over, call them up and see if they can do something. Life is too short to get all excited over something like this. Trust me. I have spent a lot of my younger days getting excited over things that, looking back, were not that big of a deal. This is not that big of a deal in the overall scheme of life.

 

[Franklink]

Nothing is certain except death and taxes.

Sales tax is mostly 8% here in Arizona, although it varies slightly by city. I view it as a legal requirement that is largely outside of the control of merchants. Especially if their legal department is telling em "ooppsie, we shoulda been charging sales tax along and weren't, so we better start doing it." (Don't know that's what's going on with UA, but certainly seems plausible).

 

[greenbeans]

Dude that’s not by choice, that’s based on CA laws/rules. They probably tripped a threshold and/or have a presence of sorts in CA. Whatever sales tax they collect doesn’t go to them, it goes to whichever state they collect for. Invoicing a “tax” and keeping it would be fraud. And postulating that they are doing that just “because I don’t wanna pay sales tax” is the f’d up thing here…

 

[blackdog899]

I love it , not getting sales taxed.
But I knew that it was supposed to be added on .
Those stores that do not charge I will seek out.
Funny on another forum you have people that want
to turn you in for not paying.

 

[Mike_Lenardon]

When I research something I want to buy I check many stores and I look for shipping charges and sales tax. Doesn't cost you anything to check h and can save you lots. YOU just have to do it

 

[LongRangePrecisionA.R.H.]

When I research something I want to buy I check many stores and I look for shipping charges and sales tax. Doesn't cost you anything to check h and can save you lots. YOU just have to do it

UA is like notorious for not having sales tax and when they have the free shipping sales it’s like so awesome basically buying it at MSRP. It’s the best. I’ve been buying Airguns and airgun accessories for a long time and I usually shop online. They are literally the only ones that don’t charge sales tax. Trust me I’ve been to all the e-commerce dealers all across the US and abroad.

 

[LongRangePrecisionA.R.H.]

I love it , not getting sales taxed.
But I knew that it was supposed to be added on .
Those stores that do not charge I will seek out.
Funny on another forum you have people that want
to turn you in for not paying.

What do you mean they wanna turn “me” in specifically? or just people in general haha

 

[Mr.H]

Some states require a collection of merchandise tax. I live in MN. I've bought Arken scopes (Texas) and they initially did not collect MN tax. They have since changed their policy. Arken and other Texas online retailers now collect MN sales tax. At the end of the year, the accumulated tax gets distributed to MN. Another example is Arizona. They do not collect MN tax. So if I buy an airgun item for Airguns of Arizona, I'm not taxed.

 

[PowderBurnt]

Tl;dr taxes suck.

 

[phillip]

You can thank the retailer Wayfair and the Supreme Court for that.

Companies have to charge sales tax for whatever state a buyer resides in after a certain threshold has been reached.

It doesn’t seem to be that big of a deal until you’re looking at a $2000 item, then, in the case of California, you’ll end up paying around an extra $200.

When buying high ticket items, I always search for businesses that will save me from having to pay taxes that fund state programs that I disagree with. Especially in California.

And thank your lucky stars that you aren’t purchasing firearms or ammunition in California because a $2000 purchase will saddle you with a tax burden of over $400.

Ahh, livin’ the California dream. Ain’t it grand?

 

[Bernie7]

As my boss used to always say when a customer asked, “Do you charge tax?”
“No, but we do collect it”

 

[LongRangePrecisionA.R.H.]

Some states require a collection of merchandise tax. I live in MN. I've bought Arken scopes (Texas) and they initially did not collect MN tax. They have since changed their policy. Arken and other Texas online retailers now collect MN sales tax. At the end of the year, the accumulated tax gets distributed to MN. Another example is Arizona. They do not collect MN tax. So if I buy an airgun item for Airguns of Arizona, I'm not taxed.

See I appreciate this thank you I had no idea

 

[LongRangePrecisionA.R.H.]

You can thank the retailer Wayfair and the Supreme Court for that.

Companies have to charge sales tax for whatever state a buyer resides in after a certain threshold has been reached.

It doesn’t seem to be that big of a deal until you’re looking at a $2000 item, then, in the case of California, you’ll end up paying around an extra $200.

When buying high ticket items, I always search for businesses that will save me from having to pay taxes that fund state programs that I disagree with. Especially in California.

And thank your lucky stars that you aren’t purchasing firearms or ammunition in California because a $2000 purchase will saddle you with a tax burden of over $400.

Ahh, livin’ the California dream. Ain’t it grand?

Exactly and for years and years and years buying from them no sales tax then all of a sudden such a dreadful feeling when it’s like damn $88 on top of 700 bucks or whatever you know.

 

[Trucker3573]

Dang he just pointed it out really and a minor rant. Kind of a pile on event. However I did absolutely love the one post in here…..post of the day for sure maybe hall of fame material….the one welcoming more taxes. Now that is funny and scary at the same time. Wow.

 

[lbc_PSI]

NOTE: 2018 Supreme Court Ruling Regarding Online Sales Taxes
In the 2018 Supreme Court case South Dakota vs. Wayfair Inc, Et Al., the court overturned a previous ruling that required a merchant to have physical nexus in order for a state to collect sales tax. This means that any state is now free to enforce collection of sales taxes on out-of-state online merchants. The information provided here may be subject to change, and many states are expected to begin collecting online sales taxes following this ruling.



New Information – On April 25, 2019, California passed Assembly Bill No. (AB) 147 (Stats. 2019, ch. 5). AB 147 amended Revenue and Taxation Code (RTC) section 6203 to require retailers located outside of California (remote sellers, including foreign sellers located outside of the United States) to register with the California Department of Tax and Fee Administration (CDTFA) and collect California use tax if, during the preceding or current calendar year, the total combined sales of tangible personal property for delivery in California by the retailer and all persons related to the retailer exceed $500,000. A person is related to a retailer if they have a relationship with the retailer described in section 267(b) of title 26 of the United States Code and the related regulations.

• IMPORTANT NOTE– In general, the requirements to register and collect California use tax prior to AB 147 remain in effect. That is, retailers with a physical presence in California are still generally required to be registered with CDTFA. Examples of a physical presence in this state include, but are not limited to:
  • Maintaining inventory or office locations in California.
  • Having representatives in California for purposes of taking orders, making sales or deliveries, or installing or assembling tangible personal property.
  • Leasing equipment, including a computer server in California.

AB 147 also amended RTC section 7262 to require all retailers, whether located inside or outside of California, to collect district use tax on all sales made for delivery in any district that imposes a district tax if, during the preceding or current calendar year, the total combined sales of tangible personal property in California or for delivery in California by the retailer and all persons related to the retailer exceed $500,000. This new collection requirement is operative April 25, 2019 (see Special Notice L-684). Please see the General Info and Collection Requirement section for additional information about district tax and the new district use tax collection requirement.


I guess if UA is making more than 500K in sales in CA..good for them, but not for me. :-(