Western Airguns Rattler .357

The more I read on the Huben the more I like it, Nothing seems bad about the gun, The SK 19 never heard a lot about the gun but I think the sidewinder is going to be a knockoff of the SK19 The grape vine says a lot of improvements but not sure where. I am a pellet shooter no slugs for me, Now if I start pushing my guns past 100 yards slugs my be my ticket to little holes
I love my huben so much that I later got the wood stock 25 cal version as well. I only shoot slugs these days. The huben can be ammo picky with both pellets and slugs, though I have less experience trying different pellets. My .22 did seem to like the 34 grain jsb beasts. A problem I ran into with some smaller pellets was them sliding back and forth in the revoling magazine and causing jams. In general longer projectiles seem to do better in them, the slugs I use now completely fill the chamber. With slugs they tend to prefer wider diameter than other airguns would, I shoot .2225 diameter slugs from my 22, although .223 may be even better. My 25 did terribly with .250 nsa slugs, better with .253s and best with .254s. I still am not totally pleased with the 100 yard groups although I am very pleased with the 50 yard ones. I just ordered what I need to polish the barrels and will report on results after doing them.

I'd say the advantages are ergonomics albeit needing higher scope rings due to being bullpups. mag capacity. semi auto funtion. High FPE potential for what is really not a very long gun overall. They can also fill to 5000 psi and while few have tanks that go that high, it does mean you can tether to a 4500 psi tank without a regulator or constantly opening and closing the valve.

Downsides are shot count at high powers, (I only get about 1.75ish mags before it falls off the reg). ammo pickyness as mentioned. The inability to access the breech end of the barrel without disassembly. They are susceptible to a few problems like the o rings behind the rear block that need replacing every so often, but nothing id say other airguns are immune to.

Aspects that I think can be good and bad are the non removable mag, and the fact that it can not be de-cocked. A secondary purpose of mine is home defense and so I find that not having a hammer spring and magazine spring that could wear out by leaving it cocked and loaded to be an advantage. Just one safety switch flip and it's ready to rock. Non removable mags mean nothing to lose or break. Loading on the gun for me is only slightly less convenient than loading magazines, and this annoyance is offset somewhat by the above average capacity. The triggers are neither amazing nor terrible in my opinion. There is some adjustability to remove slop and i dont feel the break weight is excessive. Works fine for me. If you get one I suggest familiarizing yourself with how to take it apart because you will likely have to at some point, and it's just good to be able to fix things yourself. Feel free to message me with any questions and I'll do my best to answer, I don't mean to derail this thread
 
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I’ve been very happy with my Huben K1 .22 but even so I have been fascinated by the Sidewinder. Why? Well, I think the Huben is close to the perfect semi-auto airgun, except for one thing - the non-removable magazine! (See my comments here https://www.airgunnation.com/thread...ns-huben-k1-leshiy-2-and-steyr-pro-x.1094391/).

The idea that I could have similar power and capacity as the Huben, coupled with a removable magazine is VERY attractive!
 
I’ve been very happy with my Huben K1 .22 but even so I have been fascinated by the Sidewinder. Why? Well, I think the Huben is close to the perfect semi-auto airgun, except for one thing - the non-removable magazine! (See my comments here https://www.airgunnation.com/thread...ns-huben-k1-leshiy-2-and-steyr-pro-x.1094391/).

The idea that I could have similar power and capacity as the Huben, coupled with a removable magazine is VERY attractive!
Likewise.
It was a downside of the SK19, (among some others) A removable magazine would be a clear improvement. Particularly on a semi, not having to reload individual pellets out on the go would be a big step up.
 
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I keep hearing Huben and the word perfect , Also the Huben magazine is close. If it can be loaded all the time, Like shoot five shoots reload, That's a big plus for me I can live with the in gun magazine, If you have to empty it then reload that sucks,,, That make since ?
Mike
You do not have to shoot until empty to reload the Huben. After shooting even one round you can stop shooting, lift the lever, rotate the mag and reload. I generally shoot three or so and then reload. That way i do not actually have to open the lever.
 
I keep hearing Huben and the word perfect , Also the Huben magazine is close. If it can be loaded all the time, Like shoot five shoots reload, That's a big plus for me I can live with the in gun magazine, If you have to empty it then reload that sucks,,, That make since ?
Mike
I take that kind of magazine system over the Marauder style one anyday, anyday !
 
well my rattler seems to still be leaking even after repair. the leak is even slower now it will drop 1mpa over 1 week. so by the end of 10 weeks it will be below the recommended mpa to operate the gun.

does the Huben have leak issues?
In the 4 years I’ve owned a huben it had one leak that happened a few months ago. They leak eventually like any other airgun. But the leak problems with the sk19 and rattler appear to more complicated than replacing an o ring. They(LCS and Western airguns) must have missed something when they reverse engineered the hubens hammerless system. Time to go back to the drawing board lol
 
In the 4 years I’ve owned a huben it had one leak that happened a few months ago. They leak eventually like any other airgun. But the leak problems with the sk19 and rattler appear to more complicated than replacing an o ring. They(LCS and Western airguns) must have missed something when they reverse engineered the hubens hammerless system. Time to go back to the drawing board lol
i'm giving them one more chance and they have to reset the leak warranty to the date of repair if successful. otherwise i'll refund and wait till the next gen. for 2700 bucks it shouldn't leak after 100 shots.
 
i'm giving them one more chance and they have to reset the leak warranty to the date of repair if successful. otherwise i'll refund and wait till the next gen. for 2700 bucks it shouldn't leak after 100 shots.
On the bright side at least they’re covered by one of the best airgun retailers.

AOA used to sell hubens then stopped a couple years ago. I wondered why, until I saw them starting to push the LCS sk19. And now they dropped LCS and are pushing this Rattler made by Western Airguns. I wonder how long they’ll sell the Rattler lol.
That’s why I really like huben: they only released one model and have been improving that model almost every year. I’d rather a company prioritize refining a platform rather than making it more powerful or adding a removeable mag. I like those features but value refinement over cool features.
 
To be fair there is nothing on the market that comes close to the Rattler 357. The BW S45 I had was close on power but had lots more problems and didn't feel like a finished product. Nothing can produce the range of power and accuracy that the Rattler can do in semiauto.
That’s cool but all that power means nothing if they can’t figure out how to keep these guns from leaking. Huben could easily make a bigger caliber with more power. Instead they’re developing a .177 huben and a pistol. Personally for big bore airguns I’m fine with lever action repeaters. Big bore semi autos aren’t the most economical for target shooting everyday lol
 
That’s cool but all that power means nothing if they can’t figure out how to keep these guns from leaking. Huben could easily make a bigger caliber with more power. Instead they’re developing a .177 huben and a pistol. Personally for big bore airguns I’m fine with lever action repeaters. Big bore semi autos aren’t the most economical for target shooting everyday lol
I agree. My leak is very slow it would take around 3 months for it to fall below the 15mpa threshold. But of course it shouldn't leak at all.

The power wheel let's you tune the gun down on the fly. I put it on lowest power it shoots JSB 81G exact pellets around 750 FPS and I can get around 40 shots with the standard tank. That's what makes it so good you can plink with it or you can tune it up and hunt with it 15 shots at 240+ FPE.
 
Yup that power wheel and external adjustable reg is awesome. The .25 huben could either be a tame 12 fpe or a 90 fpe beast. It’s nice to not have to change hammer springs and transfer ports to change power.

Btw for the rattler do they recommend not to touch the reg adjuster? I know they did on the sk19
Yes don't change reg. However the tech said every reg was a little different the range is between 14mpa and 17mpa. Allowing the tank to drop below whatever the reg is set at could cause cycling problems that would lead to jams and since the mag isn't removable that's a big problem.