What company owns what gun in this business???????

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Saltlake58

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In the bizarre world of business, it's interesting to see who really owns what. Here's a start and if you know of anything else weird add it and lets see what's out there!

Gamo is a Spanish Company that owns: Gamo, BSA Airguns, BSA Optics, and I suspect others

Umarex distributes (does not manufacture) Umarex, Legends, Baretta, Browning, Hamerli, Ruger, RWS, Colt and others

Winchester is distributed by ??

Crosman is owned by Compass Diversified Holdings that also owns Camelbak, Sterno and more

Brands like Edgun, FX, Hatsan, Evanix Kral, Beeman, Anschutz and others seem to be independent but I have no real info here.

Thoughts, and does anyone know other "who owns what" in this business?




 
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Not exactly sure why, but I thought Umarex is (also) an airgun manufacturer (in fact the largest airgun manufacturer in the world?). Perhaps Umarex manufactures in Germany, and Umarex USA distributes them and other brands in the U.S.? Help me here, Boys.
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My understanding is that Umarex contracts out the building of guns (though I could be wrong). Example, I believe the Gauntlet is made in China by a third party. Snow Peak airguns is a massive company that you never hear of because they build under contract for about everyone else.

I too would like some clarification on what Umarex actually makes vs what they contract out.
 
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Well, let’s not overlook the giant pink elephant in the room..

Daystate is owned by C.d Europe, who’s portfolio includes Marocci firearms of Italy, a 3 generation family gun business. They also own Brocock, naturally. 

IMO, Daystate was having its lunch eaten by FX until this acquisition. Marocci / C.d Europe bring manufacturing technology that’s light years ahead of the old, struggling brand. 

FX should be soiling themselves.. 

Brian
 
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Just confirmed that Snow Peak actually makes the Diana outlaw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLv3PFY5upI Watch the first minute or so.

You hit one of the big curiosities out there. Who owns what company. The quintessential British company, Daystate is owned by C.d Europe, but is keeping the brand separate with a British image. Kind of like FN of Belgium owns Browning and Winchester. You'd never have guessed the two American mainstay firearms companies are owned by FN. Always curious to know who really makes the product I'm buying.

Thanks all for the input!
 
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Well, let’s not overlook the giant pink elephant in the room..

Daystate is owned by C.d Europe, who’s portfolio includes Marocci firearms of Italy, a 3 generation family gun business. They also own Brocock, naturally. 

IMO, Daystate was having its lunch eaten by FX until this acquisition. Marocci / C.d Europe bring manufacturing technology that’s light years ahead of the old, struggling brand. 

FX should be soiling themselves.. 

Brian
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I think thanks to Daystate FX now has 3 year warranty . Honest competition is great for the sport.
 
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Marocci / C.d Europe bring manufacturing technology that’s light years ahead of the old, struggling brand. 

FX should be soiling themselves.. 

Brian
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Would you care to elaborate? I mean, Daystate has actually stuck a computer inside of a gun already. What kinda tech are we talking about here?
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Don't quote me, but I read somewhere that Daystate, since being bought out, does relatively little if any manufacturing anymore. Most of their guns are built in Italy by their parent company, then shipped to the UK for final assembly and testing. I can't recall the source so I can't say it with confidence, but there it is. 

Dirty little secret of Umarex is I believe they manufacture relatively little if anything themselves. It is done under contract, which is probably why they have such issues with production deadlines; in order to meet their price targets they have to play the back-and-forth game getting a Chinese OEM to meet necessary quality standards of their development mules. A little birdie told me that they even contracted out development of their Hammer. If that little birdie is right, I know the guy who did it, he is a smart SOB, and is known for doing really brilliant and outside-the-box things with pneumatics. *shrug* 
 
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STO - I think you hit one of the points I was trying to make in the thread. Just because a brand is "British" doesn't mean it's actually manufactured in Britain! Same goes for just about every other brand out there except the ones that remain independent, like FX and EdGun. We know FX is manufactured in Sweden. EdGun I assume is manufactured in Russia, but Mr. Edgun can probably straighten me out on his manufacturing. Regardless, he's an independent, so watches quality across the board.

Umarex as I understand it is an importer, at least in the United States. The deadline problems they suffer may very well be due to contracting out to other manufacturers and having quality or delivery problems. Rumor about the early Gauntlets was that the selected Chinese manufacturer cut corners after the fact that really impacted quality.

Just because a gun has a nameplate like Browning or Ruger doesn't mean Browning or Ruger had anything to do with the design and execution. Highly probable that the company building these brands just keeps paying the license fee and keeps Browning (FN of Belgium) and Ruger happy.

Crosman prides itself on being an American Manufacturer, but I don't know where all of the parts come from. Are they completely made in the USA or do some import parts sneak into the mix? Just so hard to tell these days. American Car manufacturers may assemble here, but how much of the car came from importers around the world?

BSA Airguns and Optics are owned by Gamo. I have no idea where those are manufactured. Brocock was just acquired by someone (name escapes me).

It's always interesting to watch how these companies move about, who the sister companies are that trade design and research work, and how the guns are evolving to get better and better all the time.
 
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