Those were a great buy. I'm probably wrong, but I always felt about 99% certain they were just repackaged Crosman pellets. They looked the same, the performance seemed identical, and if I remember correctly, they never gave me any trouble in any airgun in which they were tried, just like the Crosman hollow points. I'd usually buy a couple-three tins any time I found a good price online, but eventually used up what I had and that was it. I wish I was still able to find that sort of combination bargain price and great performance! I'm shooting lead free now, although I do keep a tin or two of RWS, H&N and Sig Sauer higher quality, heavier lead pellets around for the possibility a pest shows up and tries to set up housekeeping. What a an incredible difference in cost: I'm still able to shoot accurately, thank goodness, but my costs for pellets have gone up by a factor of six to ten at least, even more in some cases. Adding insult to injury, it seems like every time I need to order more, the prices have gone up, sometimes significantly. I can't remember what they cost at the time, but absolutely remember getting tins of .177 Predator pellets for under $20.00 as recently a couple of years ago, but now it's closer to thirty bucks a tin than twenty! Too bad (they're just about my favorite pellets, regardless of the material out of which they're made)...