What do you consider accurate?

Accuracy (or precision) is usually communicated by describing group size. Group size can be measured in several ways, and some people make up their own ways to measure their groups and communicate (brag about) the greatness of their guns. I don't know how others have done this calculation in the past, but in some cases I think the people are referring to the largest steel target they can clip at a given distance, or shoot 5 shot groups and only measure the tightest 3 of 5. Whatever it is, it makes it confusing when trying to communicate expectations and reality when we are not using the same definition. The way group size should be measured is by measuring the group, outside to outside at the widest dispersion for all shots in the group, then subtract one bullet diameter. This creates a center to center group size, which removes the bullet diameter, so it can be compared with other sized projectile groupings. With a center to center measure, we can later assume an angular dispersion at various distances and reapply the bullet caliber at the appropriate distance of need be.

As a target shooter, my definition of accuracy is what group size can I expect on any day I pickup the gun. It is not the best 3 shot group I ever shot with the gun, it's more like the group size of a 100 shot group. That 100 shot group size needs to be good enough to score the best score possible on the target. So, accuracy is for me is what I can consistently expect from the gun on any given day.

In addition to precision, accuracy can include the ability to retain the point of impact from day to day. Ideally the gun can be pulled off the rack and hit the target on the first shot and not require any sight adjustments. There's probably more to this too, like understanding differences in temperature and such between range sessions. This does not matter in the games I play because there is opportunity to sight in before shooting for score. My guns are able to retain a POI of minute-of-squirrel between uses so it would work for hunting situations, but they tend to not be hitting exactly the center of the target day to day. I usually have to put a few clicks on the scope to get it perfectly centered between sessions.

The one other thing I have seen in air guns vs PBs, every now and again it seems like a pellet chooses its own path to the target and prints way out of the group for an unknown reason. I suspect there is some off center weight distribution in the pellet manufacture. I have come to accept this happens with the pellets I am shooting and consider it part of the game.
when I zero in my scope I'll get 5 consistent dime size grouping's at 30yards, then I go and wait on my sparrow targets but after 10 shots the dime size groupings aren't there
 
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the gun is clean its just that if it sits and I pick it up when I see the sparrow teasin me it doesn't stay zeroed in after a period of time. In the past with open sights it was never changing, just feel that with the scope fixed at the end of the gun and with the break barrel being cocked and loaded the movement must be throwing off my sights...
Sounds like a busted scope from springer death.
 
Springers .40-.50 inch 3 shot groups rested @ 50 yards.
Pcps .70-1 inch 3 shot groups rested @ 100 yards.
Most guns I own ( Minus my 10 meter guns) will do this or better, as will most modern guns today. If you take a .22 caliber @ 100 yards and string 3 pellets with them touching one side of each pellet, you have .66 inch shot string, your CTC will be better then that. Bigger cailbers bigger groups, smaller calibers smaller groups.

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I got this rifle back from air guns of Arizona today. I just picked it up walked out to the bench started shooting jsb 8.44s at 25 yards. The second group from the left on the sighters is five shots. Actually every group is five shots.

I haven't tried to zero the rifle yet I just popped the scope back on it locked it down and started shooting. I think this rifle will probably consistently shoot groups under 9mm at 25 yards outdoors. Probably better than that with sorted pellets.

It is accurate enough for me. But If you took it to a bench rest match and shot that badly people would laugh at you.
 
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I have never owned a gun of any type there was not some shift in POI across days and conditions. I come from rimfire and into the world of springers. Temperature changes affect air density, barrel harmonics etc. Humidity impacts things a bit as well. Rain... Wind... enough said on that front. Pellet lot with various weights etc. Here with a morning of 40°F and afternoon of 85°F I will see some shifts.

Now the changes are generally not dramatic. At 25 to 50 yards it typically would not impact pigeon or squirrel hunting. However, it will impact hitting the 10 ring on a USBR Green Monster target.

I look consistency within sessions and expect some variation between.
 
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With my air rifles I only care about good enough to hit what I want decently at the max range I use that particular air rifle. With my PB's, MOA is just ok but not accurate really, I have lots of rifles that aren't that good. As I get older, all my groups with anything I shoot is getting a little bigger and I only have 3 rifles left that I know will always be no worse than 3/4 MOA, with one no worse than 1/2 MOA all day everyday including cold bore shot in my hands. If you ever get the chance to shoot with someone that competes successfully on a national level you may be shocked at how well one of your accurate firearms shoots in the hands of someone whose life is shooting successfully in competition. From 2003-2008 I hunted with one of those people fairly often, and went to shoot a little with him several times. First time he was just fire forming brass for his new unlimited class 1,000 yard rifle and gathering minimal information, just prepping brass. He had his old worn out centerfire .22 wildcat from when he shot 100 yard benchrest and was having me shoot it. I was happy shooting .3 inch 10 shot 100 yard groups like clockwork with it, and his benchrest setup. He took a break and watched me, walked downrange and pulled targets, and told me I sucked and was doing so many things wrong I could never hit the broadside of a barn. He took the 22 and not taking any time at all fired 10 rounds into a .2 inch group. That is a shot out barrel that cannot compete any longer on 100 yard benchrest. He then took my Gre'Tan custom 7mm-08 hunting rifle, which is his favorite hunting caliber, and using his hand loads for his rifle on just a front bag, clicked my scope for his dope and fired a 5 round group at 500 yards, 0.8 inches. He offered to buy my rifle, it is the last firearm I would ever let go. His group was about what I shoot at 200 yards with my factory hunting ammo. He let me shoot his ammo in it at 500 and I shot a 1.7 inch group that I was damn happy with. So much is the shooter and not the gun/ammo. Everything he told me to improve I already knew, I just don't care enough to put the time and effort into becoming perfectly consistent and correct on everything every shot. I went down that rabbit hole for several years in my early to mid 20's when I shot a minimum of 1000 rounds of 308 every month(usually a lot more), 4 new barrels, and competed in local and regional military matches(free supply of match ammo allowed me to do that). I got noticeably better, but it wasn't worth the time and effort to me knowing I would never get good enough to satisfy myself if I continued. You stop practicing all the time and even when you know what you should do, it just doesn't work as well any longer, and then you care less about it and you deterioate more. Kind of like my pool game, in the 90's I was good enough I qualified for the US Open 9 ball tournament. I didn't enter but went with a friend that also qualified and was generally just a tick better than me on average. After that I stopped playing/practicing almost every day of the week and a couple years later my game had gone down hill enough I had no pleasure shooting any longer, haven't touched my cue in well over 10 years now.
 
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My .25 m3 with pellets.. in a sled.. would shoot hole in hole at 50-70y.

Considering most my shooting is 75-140y.. I expect moa at 100y. If I can't get the rifle to do that, it collects dust.

With a springer... My .17 break barrel Gamo will split playing cards (shooter1721 stuff) at 10-15y if I do my part. So I guess I consider that my baseline for springers.

I'm probably a bit picky though.
 
30 cal 44.75 pellet thru a lizards ribs at 100 yards w/o hitting the water line or fence board is an accurate gun.
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But- I can’t do that all the time as I’m not a good enough shooter to do so(too out of shape, I breath about as steady and calm as Tommy Boy and John Candy after both racing up a flight of stairs)but I’m confident if I handed my rifle to one of you better shooters, you’d do that feat at least 3/5 times.