Had to switch scopes on a couple of .22's. I put a Aztec scope I had on my Savage .22. This is a 10 shot group @ 25 yards with CCI standard velocity ammo and NO they weren't all this tight, but shooting the ammo I was, it was a great group for the ammo. Lots of air gunners have shot PB's for decades, and know how to shoot, but are new to air rifles and know HOW to shoot if the rifle and pellets cooperate.