What features do you want to see in your ideal PCP gun?
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The thing i like the most in a pcp gun is that it is compact. I actually like single shot guns so a magazine is not necesary. A good walnut stock is nice, but synthetic os fine to. A weaver rail on high power pcps is nice to deal with the recoil and moving optics, a 11mm dovetail is fine on the lower powerd guns. It would be nice if the gun included optional iron sights.
,Niels
,Niels
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The "perfect" gun for me would be an electronic version of the FX Impact (or a .30 cal. Daystate Pulsar).
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It would be fairly easy to give any air gun an electric trigger. You could just borrow an electric solenoid from a paintball gun and attach it in front of the existing trigger so the solenoid piston operates it when you press the button. That's how the Renegade works.
I've seen it done with an Air arms S410 bull pup conversion a while ago. Electric solenoids so are very cheap.
I am fairly sure Ernest could make you a 30 cal Daystate Renegade too.
The only way I would get interested in electronic air guns is if it the cocking lever was replaced with electronics too. I could see it being super ergonomic if you cocked the gun with a conveniently placed button near the trigger or in the forend. It's odd to me that the Pulsar uses a conventional rear cocking lever to cycle when all it does is operate the pellet probe.
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How about the manufacturer properly testing a gun before releasing it. Making sure it holds air and functions properly. Insuring there are no design flaws.
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I agree 100%. I've never understood why companies selling $1500+ air rifles can't fire a few pellets from each one before putting them in the box.
When my new air rifles arrive with issues (which is fairly frequently), I am usually able to identify those issues within seconds of firing the first test shot. It really doesn't take very long at all. Dealing with problems on the other hand is very time consuming and annoying.
There are certain issues that can't be helped sometimes but problems like mags not fitting properly, leaks and pellet clipping should never see a customer.
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zebra, I tend not to monkey with engineered products due to liability issues; but thanks for the feedback 
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Dan, I realized when I switched from powder-burners to airguns that airguns are more complex machines, and therefore require more maintenance. I accept this because the tradeoff also includes greater stealth and cleaning, and less legal regulation. There's no such thing as perfection in this life, so I just go with the greatest utility of the gestalt for my particular needs.
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I also agree 100%! Not having too many airguns I haven't had any real problems but all these problems with high end guns should be tested before leaving. I wonder if that's why Taipan is still testing and developing the .25 Mutant for the last 8 months. And they've already got a very solid proven platform.
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Tell me about it! I had to send my Galahad back to Pyramydair because the indexing mechanism was faulty...and the the barrel band was missing set screws! A $1700 pcp !
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Man, that's a bummer on your Galahad. I was waiting to hear more about it. I hate for ya man!
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As mad as I am, it really is a nice piece! The mechanism started acting up 10 mags through. For the price every high end gun SHOULD be thoroughly inspected upon shipping.
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So much for my theory that the Air Arms Galahad is a safe choice because it's based on a tried and tested platform. I think it's my fault. I must have jinxed it for you.
Selling air guns must be the worst job in the world. You must have to spend all day apologizing to angry customers who thought their $1800 air gun should... um.... you know.... work n stuff.
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I don't either but using a solenoid to press the trigger is an external mod. No more liability issues than you currently have. It could be installed without removing a single screw from your air gun."marcella69"zebra, I tend not to monkey with engineered products due to liability issues; but thanks for the feedback
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@Zebra...in all honesty when it did shoot it shot superbly! I think when innovation is involve one should expect bugs to be worked out...preferably at the factory! I'm gonna give it another chance with a replacement...
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ddransoml
Heck things can even go wrong with custom made guns.
This is how my brand new Thomas arrived when I first got it back in the spring of the year.
I was just sick. But I was so glad to get it after a 4 month wait that I took the grip to a good friend of mine who does guitar repair and he worked his awesome magic on it and the Steve Corcoran grip turned out better looking than original.
Hadn't had it but maybe less than a month and it developed an air leak, so had to send it back to Colorado for repair anyway? Was a quick turn around this time and been working flawless ever since! Fingers crossed! LOL
I posted this to show you it even happens to custom built guns? Hopefully, you will get your Galahad back and it will work flawlessly for years to come?
Heck things can even go wrong with custom made guns.
This is how my brand new Thomas arrived when I first got it back in the spring of the year.
I was just sick. But I was so glad to get it after a 4 month wait that I took the grip to a good friend of mine who does guitar repair and he worked his awesome magic on it and the Steve Corcoran grip turned out better looking than original.
Hadn't had it but maybe less than a month and it developed an air leak, so had to send it back to Colorado for repair anyway? Was a quick turn around this time and been working flawless ever since! Fingers crossed! LOL
I posted this to show you it even happens to custom built guns? Hopefully, you will get your Galahad back and it will work flawlessly for years to come?
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"CampFussell"ddransoml
Heck things can even go wrong with custom made guns.
This is how my brand new Thomas arrived when I first got it back in the spring of the year.
I was just sick. But I was so glad to get it after a 4 month wait that I took the grip to a good friend of mine who does guitar repair and he worked his awesome magic on it and the Steve Corcoran grip turned out better looking than original.
Hadn't had it but maybe less than a month and it developed an air leak, so had to send it back to Colorado for repair anyway? Was a quick turn around this time and been working flawless ever since! Fingers crossed! LOL
I posted this to show you it even happens to custom built guns? Hopefully, you will get your Galahad back and it will work flawlessly for years to come?
That's rough. Even the most hardened drug addict would not want that kind of crack...
That is one of the reasons I am not a big fan of wood on an air rifle. I've had a few wood stocks arrive broken. I like the look of a nicely figured high quality and well designed wood stock but unless it is all of those things, it's just not worth it.
Anyone who has ever tried to make their own wood stock or buy a nice custom one will know that it doesn't lend itself to mass production. To do it right you need to spend time searching for the right blank. You don't do that on mass. You carefully search through dozens of slabs of wood trying to find one with a grain pattern you like and figuring in the right place to look good with your stock design. Even then, you need to ensure that it has been drying for long enough and has no cracks in the wrong places etc.
As you found, you have to go to a custom stock maker to get the good stuff. I have only seen wood that I would have chosen myself on certain Daystate and BSA guns. I believe FX offer the option to pay more to upgrade your wood too but I haven't seen one of their upgraded wood stocks in person yet
There are so many wood fans in the air gun world that it would make sense for some of the manufacturers to partner with a quality local custom stock maker to offer wood upgrade options. You can always order a custom stock directly but then you had to pay for two stocks.
In the current approach where "you have to get lucky" to get nice wood, two people paying the same price will get air guns of different value. Nobody likes to open the box of their new air rifle and get that sinking feeling when they see that they got a plain Jane while others are showing off their curly claro walnut masterpieces.
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@campfussell...I like the minimalistic look of that rifle! Who's the maker/company?
@zebra..I'm actually a synthetic fan, but if a wood stock catches my eye then I give it consideration...like that wolverine 303 Hi-lite (on my short list!).
Should have another Galahad next week...the guys I spoke to at Pyramydair were just as disappointed at the return as I were ..they were clearly rooting for the gun.
@zebra..I'm actually a synthetic fan, but if a wood stock catches my eye then I give it consideration...like that wolverine 303 Hi-lite (on my short list!).
Should have another Galahad next week...the guys I spoke to at Pyramydair were just as disappointed at the return as I were ..they were clearly rooting for the gun.
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DDransoml
It's a "Thomas FT"
Michael Niksch of Colorado makes them. Precision Air sells the Benchrest version. I have the Field Target version. Just a little more in cost.
http://www.precisionairgunsandsupplies.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=395
Google " thomasairinc "
I'm shooting the 13.4 gr JSB Monsters at 820 FPS which puts me right at the limit for 20 FPE in Field Target.
Jimmy
It's a "Thomas FT"
Michael Niksch of Colorado makes them. Precision Air sells the Benchrest version. I have the Field Target version. Just a little more in cost.
http://www.precisionairgunsandsupplies.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=395
Google " thomasairinc "
I'm shooting the 13.4 gr JSB Monsters at 820 FPS which puts me right at the limit for 20 FPE in Field Target.
Jimmy
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@campfussell..."Just a little more!!!" I'm justifying the guns I buy now by the skin of my teeth...don't even want to think about dealing with the wife after bringing one of those home! That custom stuff must be something, huh.
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