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What is the AI of airguns
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What do you mean by backyard? Is yours like mine, noting for a couple of miles. Or are there neighbors to be mindful of? I ask this because if you've not any experience with these rifles you will find yourself surprised at the power they deliver and may not be as back yard friendly as you think.
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Note my handle, BackStop. I totally agree. In my case, ~12fpe is usually MUCH more than enough to take out the pests I have, see my sig below.
Also, you have to be VERY aware of the possibility of ricochet.
If you live in an area where the houses are close together on 1/5-1/4 acre lots, then you REALLY don't want a lot of power. That is, if you want to make safe shots and remain on friendly terms with your neighbors.
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I own 500 acres so dont have any neighbors to worry about. But i would like something thats quiet just for my sake
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I own both platforms, RAW and AAA Evol.
The major difference is the traditional rifle styling of the RAW vs the AAA.
The AAA has the potential to develop higher velocities and power, but once the right pellet and speed is diagnosed for your particular rifle, the accuracy will be same same at 50 yards.
The major difference is the traditional rifle styling of the RAW vs the AAA.
The AAA has the potential to develop higher velocities and power, but once the right pellet and speed is diagnosed for your particular rifle, the accuracy will be same same at 50 yards.
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Ive been trying to read up alittle on supressors for the raw to get it quiet. One of the biggest downsides to me that ive read so far. Is its louder than most. Theres something about the looks that i love.
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Raw HM1000x, older Pre-Airforce 2014 version. 5/8" .25 LW barrel and 3/4" stainless .22 smooth twist cut rifled barrel. The newer rifles have a bit more oomph due to more plenum volume. Haven't switched back to the. 25 caliber for some time but, having the option is nice if wanting to thump something larger. .22 does most everything with less cost per pellet. RAW is a newer updated version of the older Theoben Rapid series, so the design has been around for some time. Another Rapid design rifle is being reproduced in UK called Impact GSX200 which is a bolt action, not sure what upgrades it has over the originals. The RAW is a substantial air rifle though, big and heavy. For me, the 1st Gen RAW silencer is quiet enough but not sure about the later models.
Some of the higher tech new rifles have external adjustable regulators with gauges and external hammer spring adjustments which means you can tune it on the fly without disassembling anything. Some pellets fly better at a certain fps for accuracy, then slugs came along which gives you better bc but require more air to push them. Are the external adjustments required, probably not but to set the rifle up for your purpose or switching calibers it's nice to have features.
Some of the higher tech new rifles have external adjustable regulators with gauges and external hammer spring adjustments which means you can tune it on the fly without disassembling anything. Some pellets fly better at a certain fps for accuracy, then slugs came along which gives you better bc but require more air to push them. Are the external adjustments required, probably not but to set the rifle up for your purpose or switching calibers it's nice to have features.
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You can't buy experience, and why would you want to?
Money makes you lazy? Do your own research, your time is not worth more than any forum member's.
Money makes you lazy? Do your own research, your time is not worth more than any forum member's.
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When did i want to buy experience? I know how to shoot and do it quite well. Money makes me lazy? I dont want to waste money buying something id want to upgrade in a couple months. Since when is asking a honest question on a forum not worth forum members time?
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I guess I'm just frustrated at the sheer number of "what gun should I buy" posts - I just do not get it - but I suppose that's my issue -apologies to the OP
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taipan veteran -fx impact- maverick- crown- daystate revere- hw 100- all great guns do some reasearch lots on here
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Taipan Veteran in .22 is an amazing and reliable platform - then American Air Arms Evol in .22 the less complicated the better but Steyr makes the cream of the crop IMO
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There is another thread discussing moderators for the Evol. Here it is you should check it out.
American Air Arms .30 Evol
The problem with the adapter is it steps into a 1/2" thread that now adds a weak link to the entire system. The factory moderator is designed to use the volume of the shroud...the Donny adapter closes that off. Of course a big fat can on the end might look cool to some but I just fail to see any...
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Here is my 2 cents worth of advice. Why do you want an air rifle? My biggest reason is to shoot at home quietly. I can only shoot 75 yards practically. So pellets are perfect for that and you really don't need crazy power for pellets. most of the time you will be most accurate close to 900 FPS accelerating thru speed of sound usually causes unwanted turbulence and accuracy may be lost. I found out I dont care for a electronic trigger because they feel like a you are squeezing a micro switch and it just doesn't feel the same as a mechanical trigger. For me I can't see being able to move back and forth between electronic and mechanical triggers. Others may be fine with it. For inside 75 yards I can't imagine anything being better than my Taipan Standard 22. It is nice and short, has a great trigger and I can shoot it well from any position. I recently purchased a AAA Paradigm to shoot out to 100 and wanted more power to shoot a heavier pellet. And it will out shoot my Taipan @ 100 yards. but it is longer and louder. I bought it for the specific reason of shooting out to a 100 with an air rifle. If I owned 500 acres and could shoot a firearm there I wouldn't consider a air rifle past 50 / 75 yards. But that's only one opinion.
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I started out in PCPs with a cheap Umarex Origin. This affordable rifle did exactly what I intended. It allowed me to dabble in the PCPs that had interested me for years without breaking the bank. I really do not feel that I wasted any money with this entry level product. Quite the contrary, It taught me a lot.
Some time later I had need for a petting gun to deal with Raccoons that were killing my chickens, so my next step up was an Air Force air gun.
Again, no money wasted. The gun is perfect for what it's intended use with the added benefit of being loads of fun.
While I was experimenting with those two guns, I was doing lots of research (including reading a lot of those "what should I buy" threads) they were quite helpful BTW and played some part in my final decision to get buy my .22 caliber RTI Prophet Performance.
I am stopping here for now. I still have and shoot all three, and all are more than capable at 50 yards and even my 85 yard back yard lane.
If accuracy is your #1 requirement, then of the three, I would recommend the RTI, but keep in mind, it is a regulated, and any regulated gun is going to require some work to squeeze the most accuracy out of it. That is where My AF gun shines. Just a hammer spring adjustment and it will shoot hole on hole at 50 yards if I do my part.
Note: I am still pretty new at this myself, so my opinion may not be all that.
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And for quieting things down. I use a 0db moderator on my RTI and a Talon Tunes on my AirForce.
Of the two, I think the 0db does a better job, but then the RTI is not nearly as loud as the TalonP to begin with.
Of the two, I think the 0db does a better job, but then the RTI is not nearly as loud as the TalonP to begin with.
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This is what I like about my Kral Puncher Breaker. Most of the time it’s max power, but for FT I can slow it down enough to keep it under 20ft lbs. Hole in hole all day.
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THE RAW rifles do tend to be louder than other comparable rifles for their power level. The best solution that I have heard of is to completely replace the factory shroud with a unit from Ken Hicks at SPAW, or a unit from Neil Clague.
The EVOL is pretty quiet in stock form as it uses a custom designed suppressor core that is designed to work with the shroud. Shooting from an area with sound reflective surfaces nearby, you will notice more report VS shooting in an open area. There is an adapter available on the DonnyFL website that allows you to use an after market 1/2-20 threaded moderator in place of the factory unit. The down side of that option will be a large can hanging off of the muzzle of course.
The noise level of either rifle will be pretty comparable to each other in stock trim, with a slight edge going to the EVOL due to the larger expansion area afforded by its shroud. THE current RAW moderator is quite large and not really pleasing from an aesthetic standpoint to me, and they do not seem to be as efficient as one would expect from such a large device.
If you favor the traditional rifle styling of the RAW, also be sure to take a look at the AAA EVOL Paradigm in .22 as well.
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