What Scopecams Are Available❓

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What Scopecams Are Available❓​


After Tactacam has sadly abandoned us (and I really invested into my Tactacams because I thought I really could trust them to continue this product!).... –
I am looking into another scopecam system!


Mind you, NOT one of those cameras that don't ever touch a scope, they simple are an action cam that mounts on a gun.
There are some joksters out there that sell these as "scopecams." They are just gun cams.

Mind you also, NOT one of those cellphone-to-scope adapters, we could call those maybe cellphone scopecams.

I mean, a real scope cam – cam as in camera. A camera that films through the scope – what I see in the scope is going to be on an mp4 file....
A system that doesn't take my beloved cellphone away from me every time I want to shoot.... Or requires a specialized mount every time I change my cellphone. 🤦🏼‍♂️



Anyhow, has anybody lately been shopping this segment of our hobby and can give me (and others) a run-down of what's available, and – I'm hoping – tell us the good & the bad of each system?

A few years ago I did a massive collection of info, instructional, and links about the Tactacam. Maybe someone else is up for the task to advise me this time.


Thank you! 😊

Matthias
 
Why are you so against the traditional scope cam... A scope camera system with 70/30 light distribution and even a cheaper Firefly 90se is superior in recording quality to Pard and those more expensive systems. Even the proff. Youtubers uses scope cams with a Gopro (With modified lens)

I designed a cheap DIY scope camera system that you can 3d Print and buy all parts for at a price of 50 USD. Additionally you have to buy a Firefly 8 SE 90 degree lens. or a Gopro 7 and a new 12 mm Tele lens. Of course it is also possible to purchase a Gopro 10-11 or higher and buy a new Lens for that too, but I haven't designed a camera house for any of those yet. Main difference is that the Gopro 7 Black edition (Old) can do 1080 at 240fps and from Gopro 10 and up they can record 2,7k at 240 fps.

See more about "the free scopecam" here:
Footage with Firefly 90 degree 8se:

Footage with the Hero 7 Black:

The best designed system to buy is Eaglevision
Orion is also doing a system.

I have both a Eaglevision and my own design "The Free Scopecam" and I cannot see any differences in the recordings between my DIY system and the Eaglevision system.

But equal for all is the scope camera system must be adjusted right and Parallax settings too. Best is to shoot with glasses so you don't need to compensate for Parallax - The scope camera does not have week eyes :)


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SDellinger said:
So, no more Tactacam?
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Yupp. Since a few years, the company Tactacam decided to not produce scopecams and guncams (as defined in the OP) — but trailcams.

Sad.


engfred said:
Why are you so against the traditional scope cam...
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I'm not against the traditional scopecam, Engfred, and certainly not against the version that Tactacam produced.
That's my problem — I considered Tactacam one of the best products out there to have FPF footage of my shots. But — they stopped making them.... 😞

I want a system like the one you are talking about — and I congratulate you for designing one yourself! 👏🏼

Matthias
 
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engfred said:
A scope camera system with 70/30 light distribution and even a cheaper Firefly 90se is superior in recording quality to Pard and those more expensive systems. Even the proff. Youtubers uses scope cams with a Gopro (With modified lens)

I designed a cheap DIY scope camera system that you can 3d Print and buy all parts for at a price of 50 USD. Additionally you have to buy a Firefly 8 SE 90 degree lens. or a Gopro 7 and a new 12 mm Tele lens. Of course it is also possible to purchase a Gopro 10-11 or higher and buy a new Lens for that too, but I haven't designed a camera house for any of those yet. Main difference is that the Gopro 7 Black edition (Old) can do 1080 at 240fps and from Gopro 10 and up they can record 2,7k at 240 fps.

See more about "the free scopecam" here:
Footage with Firefly 90 degree 8se:

Footage with the Hero 7 Black:

The best designed system to buy is Eaglevision
Orion is also doing a system.

I have both a Eaglevision and my own design "The Free Scopecam" and I cannot see any differences in the recordings between my DIY system and the Eaglevision system.

But equal for all is the scope camera system must be adjusted right and Parallax settings too. Best is to shoot with glasses so you don't need to compensate for Parallax - The scope camera does not have week eyes :)


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🟠 So, let's start the scopecam list I was asking about in the OP😃:
You mentioned 3 systems that are(?) currently available, plus the one @Scotchmo has:

➊ TFS: The Free Scopecam, your DIY proyect, in 3D print
— camera: Firefly
— or camera: GoPro 7 (and below), plus lens, with DIY lens swap

➋ Orion
— camera: Firefly
— or camera: GoPro, plus lens, with DIY lens swap

➌ EagleVision (UK)
— camera: Firefly
— or camera: GoPro, plus lens, with DIY lens swap

➍ Triggercam 2.1
— camera: proprietary design
▪ The image gets automatically cropped by about half(!) when filming — so what you see is not what you get on video, but about 50% less!¹

Matthias



¹Source (comparison Triggercam 2.1 with Tactacam 5.0), @ 9:26min:
 
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Ok Mathias,
I understand you -

If you can find somebody that can 3d Print locally you could make your own "The Free Scopecam"
I designed it entirely for my fellow shooters around the world, that was looking for a cheap DIY solution that works like a PRO version.

I manufactured totally 5 sets until now.
The famous ;-) shooter and my personal friend. Soren Drost from Denmark is also using "The free scopecam"

Take a look at the files - There will probably be some local Facebook 3d print groups where you can get the Printed parts.
The guyz in the print groups are dying to print some useful parts for almost the cost of print filament.

Download files for The Free Scopecam from my Onedrive folder: Scopecam

Or join the facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1772403249634051/
Here are a handful of guys offering their own designs of scope cam systems.

Enjoy and Good luck in your search
 
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engfred said:
If you can find somebody that can 3d Print locally you could make your own "The Free Scopecam"
I designed it entirely for my fellow shooters around the world, that was looking for a cheap DIY solution that works like a PRO version.
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I just got retired from a mechanical design in a high end platform, also have a 3d printer for my own parts - a pretty good=precise (30 micron) LCD resin printer also a big selection of engineering materials.
I was eyeing these eaglevision clones for a quiet long time but when I was still working always life gets into a way to start designing my own. Summers busy for a reason, best to tinker only over Canadian winters only. Free now and almost getting bored :)
I will take a look into your files I see you separated the parts from assy. I know the dimensions and tolerances are different between filaments and resin I will most likely need to remodel to my own tolerances.
I just noticed these file extensions, do you have by any chance some generic file transfer format like *.igs or *step or *.stl?
Thanks
 
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I had a day of tinkering what for I could use a scope cam, and now I have a Question:
- instead of a side shot (with a mirror box) what would be a best camera mounting option straight inline with the scope? eaglevisioncam + Firefly or not... I can aim to target with the camera screen ;)
I don't hunt, I just want to see a slowmo only at what tune speed the pellets/slugs start corkscrewing.
 
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I just want to see a slowmo only at what tune speed the pellets/slugs start corkscrewing.
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🔶 Yeah, that was an eye-opener for me....
Note, however, that the depth of field of your current parallax setting will only show a certain area in focus, the rest will be blurry or worse, invisible.
▪ depth of field = the extent ("depth") at which your image is in focus (your "field" of in-focus vision).


🔶 Aiming with a screen (instead of the image inside the tube of the camera adapter):
On sunny days, when the sun hits the spot where you are sitting, this can be very difficult — the reflections on a tiny and fairly weakly lit screen will make it very hard to see the tiny details you hope to detect.


Cheers,

Matthias
 
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JungleShooter said:
🔶 Yeah, that was an eye-opener for me....
Note, however, that the depth of field of your current parallax setting will only show a certain area in focus, the rest will be blurry or worse, invisible.
▪ depth of field = the extent ("depth") at which your image is in focus (your "field" of in-focus vision).


🔶 Aiming with a screen (instead of the image inside the tube of the camera adapter):
On sunny days, when the sun hits the spot where you are sitting, this can be very difficult — the reflections on a tiny and fairly weakly lit screen will make it very hard to see the tiny details you hope to detect.


Cheers,

Matthias
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I have a one-piece rest for shooting from bench and especially the tuning aspect is a very different ball game with these ;) (old picture but just to have a visual).

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With this rest I learned a technique sitting behind the gun, and if the camera would be mounted there I assume even more comfortable.

I was thinking about focus as well.... At my 100 meter range the backstop is a big white panel,, and luckily no light is coming from behind my neck,, windy yes and that can make a mess on the rings :)

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This my target scope has a very fine focus range up to 55 meters (many people like to use it for FT). If I would set a focus @75 for example and a zoom at about 25-35 that would give me a big white background and a pellet flying towards...
Speculating only (as a long decades of photographer hobbyist), I would really like to see the corkscrewing when I am tuning...
.... wondering if the 240 frames per second at 720 resolution with the Firefly would be good enough?
I have also a Canon DSLR but mounting that one would be a b***ch :)
 
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Although I don't have one yet. I have 2 questions.​
  1. Is it true that the triggercam allows you to adjust the diopter to your eye and a separate adjustment wheel that you can adjust for a crisp picture on the triggercam?
  2. And is it true that the lens has better coating so it doesn't show the reflections off back side of the reflector? My Tactacam tends to show the bright reflections behind me especially when I am not directly behind the scope.
Although price does matter when I can afford it these two features are worth the price if they indeed work. I did notice this other less expensive one called "Scopemate"

nvscopemate.com

Scopemate S18 Version 3.0

Scope Camera Lateral, Side shot Camera,Scope Camera,Scope Cam, Scopemate S18,Side Cam, Scopecam
nvscopemate.com

Has anyone experienced with the Scopemate? Although it seems newer it may not have as many features and may have more issues than what is currently out there.



Allen
 
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