What springer did you shoot today?

I'd does resonate a little. The limbsaver pad helps a whole lot.

I'm tempted to squirt it full of "great stuff". I really like the synthetic stock on it. It can be a little hollow sounding. It's not a big concern but the next time I have a leftover can of spray foam I'm going to fill it up.
The spray would be a problem if you didn’t like it. Just Stuff it with foam rubber or rags. Easy to remove if not liked. Crow
 
I couldn't take another day indoors. I went outside long enough to shoot the new to me 77. It shoots nicely. I have to get used to it missing a button release for the cocking lever. I only lasted 21 shots before my fingers hurt.

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I couldn't take another day indoors. I went outside long enough to shoot the new to me 77. It shoots nicely. I have to get used to it missing a button release for the cocking lever. I only lasted 21 shots before my fingers hurt.

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Very nice gun. I found that same problem. The push button sure makes a difference. Especially in the cold. I rarely use my TX’s in cold weather, same reason.
‘And just came off with no shooting in 2 weeks. It wasn’t pretty. Good luck. Crow
 
I got the 'ol 97 broken in at 250 shots. It's hammering the H&N 14's at a steady 680. Sitting in my broken lawn chair shooting off a camera tripod.

Beautiful breezy day 5-10 mph. About 40 degrees. The three targets on the left are at 25. On the right 50. The outside of the black circle is .o40.

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The top four I was playing with different pellets and getting sighted in. The bottom two are H&N FTT's. Five shots at 25 on the left. 15 @ 50 on the right.

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The wind was really tossing them into the corn at 50. The rifle will shoot much better on a calm day from a solid rest.

The gun shoots great and I'm really happy with the Tinbum kit. The rebuild has been a success!
 
I got the 'ol 97 broken in at 250 shots. It's hammering the H&N 14's at a steady 680. Sitting in my broken lawn chair shooting off a camera tripod.

Beautiful breezy day 5-10 mph. About 40 degrees. The three targets on the left are at 25. On the right 50. The outside of the black circle is .o40.

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The top four I was playing with different pellets and getting sighted in. The bottom two are H&N FTT's. Five shots at 25 on the left. 15 @ 50 on the right.

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The wind was really tossing them into the corn at 50. The rifle will shoot much better on a calm day from a solid rest.

The gun shoots great and I'm really happy with the Tinbum kit. The rebuild has been a success!
How do you like that scope? I have the same on my 97K, it tends to wash out when in the direction of the sun, maybe I need a sunshade.
Other than that I like it, been shooting it on 10X.
 
How do you like that scope? I have the same on my 97K, it tends to wash out when in the direction of the sun, maybe I need a sunshade.
Other than that I like it, been shooting it on 10X.

It's OK. I have some gripes. The clicks are mushy. And the horizontal drift is pretty bad. 6-8 "clicks". My zero is always shifting left and right.

I'm going to send it back and see what they say about it. I'm pretty sure the erector is shifting around a bit. It just won't settle in a spot. And it won't take small adjustments. You get no POI change with a 2-3 click adjustment. Then it jumps over 5-6. 50 shots later your coming back the other way. It's like it has some slack in there somewhere...

I had high hopes for it. But I actually like my old Hawke scope better. The 97 is the only scoped air rifle I shoot anymore. You would think I could keep a scope running on ONE springer at least....
 
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It's OK. I have some gripes. The clicks are mushy. And the horizontal drift is pretty bad. 6-8 "clicks". My zero is always shifting left and right.

I'm going to send it back and see what they say about it. I'm pretty sure the erector is shifting around a bit. It just won't settle in a spot. And it won't take small adjustments. You get no POI change with a 2-3 click adjustment. Then it jumps over 5-6. 50 shots later your coming back the other way. It's like it has some slack in there somewhere...

I had high hopes for it. But I actually like my old Hawke scope better. The 97 is the only scoped air rifle I shoot anymore. You would think I could keep a scope running on ONE springer at least....
How far off optical center is it? Mine seems to click ok for a $240 scope, but my Hawkes are more mushy. The eye box on my Airmax is critical, but the vantage doesn't care where my head is..lol. Either way I shoot with glasses, and if I'm not in the right spot it will seem to shift POI, in reality it's just my eye not in the same spot looking through the reticle. It took awhile to figure this out, but now I know not to chase the POI, but to adjust my eye position. The Airmax seems to be the worst for me, but they all do it to some degree.
 
How far off optical center is it? Mine seems to click ok for a $240 scope, but my Hawkes are more mushy. The eye box on my Airmax is critical, but the vantage doesn't care where my head is..lol. Either way I shoot with glasses, and if I'm not in the right spot it will seem to shift POI, in reality it's just my eye not in the same spot looking through the reticle. It took awhile to figure this out, but now I know not to chase the POI, but to adjust my eye position. The Airmax seems to be the worst for me, but they all do it to some degree.
I never noticed a problem with the eye box on my Airmaxs. i have five or six 3-9 and two 2-7 and a 4-12. if your POI shifts with eye position the AO isn't set right. I agree that the turrets are generally mushy and inaudible.
 
I never noticed a problem with the eye box on my Airmaxs. i have five or six 3-9 and two 2-7 and a 4-12. if your POI shifts with eye position the AO isn't set right. I agree that the turrets are generally mushy and inaudible.
Yes, it's my eyes with glasses, it's just hard to get
a perfect sight picture every time. Some scopes are easier for my eyes and others are more critical. My eye will blur and get watery if I stare through the scope too long. So if you have good vision, you are blessed.
 
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A once in fifteen or twenty years, event getting started!
We had one like this in 62 or so. Our family had just moved here to the north shore of lake pontchartrain saying goodbye to snow that we had in Michigan. Lol my mom got stuck in New Orleans, because they had closed the causeway, and dad was furious that she went.
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It's OK. I have some gripes. The clicks are mushy. And the horizontal drift is pretty bad. 6-8 "clicks". My zero is always shifting left and right.

I'm going to send it back and see what they say about it. I'm pretty sure the erector is shifting around a bit. It just won't settle in a spot. And it won't take small adjustments. You get no POI change with a 2-3 click adjustment. Then it jumps over 5-6. 50 shots later your coming back the other way. It's like it has some slack in there somewhere...

I had high hopes for it. But I actually like my old Hawke scope better. The 97 is the only scoped air rifle I shoot anymore. You would think I could keep a scope running on ONE springer at least....
I have thought about blaming my scope, but my windage problems are just that, windage. My elevation problems seem to be rear grip, cheek weld etc. If someone with benchrest + springer experience wants to write an article about their experiences I would enjoy studying it.
 
It was 13 degrees in the desert this morning. Brilliant sun at 4k feet. On the south side of the house it's 73 degrees. In the shade it's 20.

You can peel your shirt off and get a tan as long as your close to the south wall. Step away 3 feet and the cold dry air goes through 1/4" of wool like a knife. When we lose the sun this evening it's going to get real.
 
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It was 13 degrees in the desert this morning. Brilliant sun at 4k feet. On the south side of the house it's 73 degrees. In the shade it's 20.

You can peel your shirt off and get a tan as long as your close to the south wall. Step away 3 feet and the cold dry air goes through 1/4" of wool like a knife. When we lose the sun this evening it's going to get real.
Yes!
I told my wife you know how it gets warm, rains and then gets cold? This is the warm, the snow is the rain, and the cold is coming! I mean real cold!
 
I have thought about blaming my scope, but my windage problems are just that, windage. My elevation problems seem to be rear grip, cheek weld etc. If someone with benchrest + springer experience wants to write an article about their experiences I would enjoy studying it.

This is definitely scope shift. You can see it in the 50 yard target. It will group to the left and then scatter a couple and group to the right again. Even on the 25 yard targets you see a horizontal shift. It will just hammer them into a spot, wander for a shot or two and then settle left or right.

The scope is less than a half turn from optical center on both axis. I centered it with a mirror for my first groups. Only about an inch low right.

The POI won't take small adjustments. You really fight to get a pattern centered on the dot. When you do it will shift within 30-40 shots and your 5 clicks off again.

Thermal shift is what I was thinking. But it happens when temps are not swinging too.

I'm swapping scopes today and doing some more tests. It could be me and/or the wind but I'm suspicious. You can drive 6-8 shots into a spot and watch them move to a new spot and start stacking them again. The velocity is steady as a rock and the gun has always driven tacks (even at 450 fps and a trisected spring).

It's been less than ideal weather to test accuracy. I'm giving the Sightron every chance to redeem itself. If I can shoot 100 shots in the same spot without it changing POI with my spare scope it's going back to planet Sightron for reprogramming.
 
Yes!
I told my wife you know how it gets warm, rains and then gets cold? This is the warm, the snow is the rain, and the cold is coming! I mean real cold!

Ice fishing on the Pontchartrain? You could be the first to catch an alligator in an ice hut.
 
It's been less than ideal weather to test accuracy. I'm giving the Sightron every chance to redeem itself. If I can shoot 100 shots in the same spot without it changing POI with my spare scope it's going back to planet Sightron for rereprogramming.
True. I have been brain storming about where I could test indoors.
 
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You guys are shooting in some really cold weather. Tomorrow it's supposed to go up into the upper 30's so I will get out there for some shooting.
It will feel like a heat wave after the low temperatures we have been getting.
Our coldest weather will start tomorrow.
 
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