What type of night vision is works good ? and has technology improved reciently

Hi I would like some input on what type of night vision you have and tell us the pros and cons and if you would buy unit again , Weather it is a Thermo scope , Night vision with Illumination , or a rifle scope with a Night vision Adapter , also let us know distances you can see a defined small game animal ; and also if moon or lighting or rain or snow or fog how it affects it . I am trying to see if they improved and or their is a good system reasonably priced , also what is battery life of your unit and weight .

I wondered if anyone has one of those adapters which attaches on the eyepiece of a a rifle-scope and turns it into a night vision unit , Does good glass in a scope make it better make it better ?


 
I have the ATN 4K and had the Xsight1. Love them, the 4K is much better rez. Hog hunt in spring with it on one of my ARs and the rest of the time its on my Marauder .22for backyard bunny control. Its day and night vision, records, streams to your phone, saves to Sd card. All around it rocks.

Bunny compilation from my old Xsight 1.







https://youtu.be/kGETBS8RbPM




 
Xsight 4k

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Xsight 1

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This may be way more than you want but here is some info:

With the recent technological advancements night vision scopes have finally become affordable enough for someone like myself to purchase. I don’t have a specific intended purpose such as hog hunting, so I purchased these solely for the coolness factor and to do some shooting at night. For my first night vision scope, I bought the ATN X-Sight II 5-20. I subsequently sold that one and purchased the 3-14 model after as it was blurry over 14 X anyway and wanted the increased FOV. The weight of the scope forced me to sell and pursue other options within about two months. Next I bought a Photon XT 6.5 X 50 from Ebay, and quite frankly it was no better than the X Sight II but had way fewer functions. It was the 6.5 X 50S which is the LED illuminator version as opposed to the 6.5 50L which is the version with the Laser Illuminator. The 4.6 version only comes with an LED light. With both the X Sight and the Photon the quality of the night vision was very much dependent on an additional IR light source with the video clarity about the same for both holding all other variables constant. It was promptly returned and instead of the Pulsar N750 which I was considering first I bought the Pulsar N550 with the price being in the middle of the Photon and the N750. I am aware of the shortcomings when comparing the N550 to the N750, but couldnt justify the extra cash for the 1.5 Zoom, OLED diskplay, and wireless remote. It is brand new at least and if needed I figure I can always upgrade in the future and the deal I got made it well worth it. So…..I decided that I will write this review as I have had a decent subset of cheap night vision devices to play with so I should have a decent baseline for comparison. Here is what I have found so far.

ATN X Sight II (3-14 or 5-20)

Incredible amount of functionality crammed into one device. This is both a blessing and a curse. As is typical with software releases, ATN has over promised on features and is playing catch up constantly with firmware updates. This can be a very frustrating process as during the upgrades other functionality tends to break and requires subsequent patches to the software. Being that almost everyone uses MS Windows, we have become to accept this lacking level of software development product as the standard. Don’t get me started on that crap. A lot of the software features are stable on the X Sight however, with my favorites being the color Medium Definition (they say HD but that’s simply not the case) recording in daytime onto an SD card, the One Shot Zero, the passing of distance and angle parameters from their range finder via bluetooth, the ability to use the passed data or manually entered parameters to do ballistic calculation, the ability to broadcast what the rifle scope is seeing via wifi, digital zoom either 3-14 or 5-20 with an extended but semi useless Extended Zoom, and the ability to change reticles. I have had both the 3-14 and 5-20 as I initially bought the 5-20 but once I realized I was sacrificing some field of view for shabby magnification that was too blurry at high levels to effectively use the scope I sold it and bought the 3-14. There are other features as well but to me those were the most noteworthy. From a negative perspective, it is a very heavy device, I think it was over 3 pounds with the IR Illuminator, the software tends to hang when performing certain features, and it rips through batteries like no ones business. The night vision is OK, the IR illuminator I understand has recently been updated and functions well, but as with any of the Gen I or cheaper digital devices it becomes very grainy and/or blurry at decent distances and to me was pretty unusable past 35-40 yards at the very most. I would probably add an aftermarket illuminator. Something else that I found unique and pretty cool was the ability to use the scope in Day Mode in dusk and even shortly after to still see in color. I pretty much found that if there is enough ambient light to see perfectly without the IR illuminator, one could use the scope in Day Mode.

Photon XT 6.5 X 50S

This is also a decent device, much more purpose built than the ATN X Sight. It is much lighter than the ATN X Sight coming in at around 23 ounces. Still not super light for a scope, but more manageable than 3 plus pounds with IR attached for ATN. It has fewer functions, but what it does do it does well as one can expect with a Gen 1 device. No notable functions as compared to the X Sight. As I am noticing is the case with many of the digital NV Optics, the manufacturer did not include the ability to record to an SD card instead providing video a video out jack. There are a few reticles to choose from on this scope as well. The scope is zeroed using the same basic principles one would use to zero a normal scope, with the exception that the windage and elevation are both adjusted using one knob and menu item selection. This scope does not have one shot zero, but I am pretty sure that they will incorporate that soon as it is catching on with all the digital scopes. The IR illuminator functions OK, but I would definitely purchase an aftermarket more powerful one. Yes this scope can be used during the day, but I found it pretty much unusable with nowhere near the picture and definition of the X Sight.

Pulsar N550

This is a much more expensive device, costing around twice as much as the two aforementioned models. I do however feel that it is the next step in a natural progression of testing cool stuff. Once again this scope too can be used during the day. All of the digital scopes I have tried use a CCD (Charged Coupled Device) to absorb light, convert it into digital format, and then amplify it. The CCD in a night scope is configured to have a higher sensitivity to the IR part of the light spectrum then one in a normal digital camera, hence the night time functionality. This is why they can be used in the day as there is no tube being used to amplify the light. When I first got this thing it was driving me nuts, as I thought I had received a broken one even though it is new. I tried all of the normal (non-rechargeable) batteries I had including the Energizer Lithium ones that worked the best in the X Sight, some of those red Duracells with the tester included on the battery, and some normal Duracells. None of them worked. The scope seemed like it would try to turn on for a second then turn off as would the IR light. The instruction manual alludes to this somewhere non-intuitive, but it appears that only rechargeables work. I found this odd as a fully charged normal battery has a slightly higher voltage then the rechargeable ones. I guess its the running voltage that is most important for this scope. The day image is better than the Photon, but not as good as the X Sight. There are 5 reticles to choose from, a video out jack and it weights around 34 oz. It also comes with a wired remote to adjust contrast and turn the IR light and scope on and off. Tonight I will test it’s intended functionality once it gets dark and report back for all that are interested. Some of the features I intend to test are the Sum Light feature which amplifies the image in very low light situations, a color inversion function that is used when one cannot see the reticle because it is blending in to the background, and Pulsar’s version of the one shot zero. The coolest function so far is to be able to use a program called Pulsar Reticle Manager where one can create his/her own custom reticles.
 
Yes, day vision and night vision. Simple press of button to change modes. Range depends on your IR. I have a couple aftermarket IRs, but the one that comes with them is pretty damn good. 150-maybe yards. People with high end IRs say they can do well over 300 yards.

Beau

Yes, day vision and night vision. Simple press of button to change modes. Range depends on your IR. I have a couple aftermarket IRs, but the one that comes with them is pretty damn good. 150-maybe yards. People with high end IRs say they can do well over 300 yards.

I love that stock, what a setup right there. If you can get the ATN range finder it’s a beautiful integration of the two I highly recommend it.
 
This was something I wrote a while back so it’s slightly outdated but the principles remain the same. When I had the X Sight it made shooting a lot more entertaining especially because I love technology and optics. I also am dying to try the sig sauer integrated solution but no night vision. Also to answer the OP question about the devices that work together with a normal scope by being placed directly behind it you are approaching awesome territory there imo for sure look at this Pulsar F155 forward attachment http://www.pulsar-nv.com/products/digital-front-attachment/digital-night-vision-attachment-forward-f155 it does come with a hefty price tag of around 1100 bucks but I imagine it’s really nice to get the best of both worlds there. It also records and streams. And if you have it within your financial abilities keep moving up to Thermal then it becomes a whole new level. I would also like to get my hands on an ATN Thor google that one. Just like everything else in this hobby it’s all about them ducketts you can spend as much as you want and the stuff gets better and better and when you drop 12K on a rifle scope you may as well draw up the divorce papers first. :)
 
They all need illuminators to see in darkness, if you really want to see when there is no ambient light without an illuminator you need Gen 3 or thermal. Even the Gen 3 devices benefit greatly from an IR light source but with Gen 1 or the Gen 1 equivalent digital sights like the X Sight or N series you can’t see out past 300 yards accurately enough to assess target type without infrared and when it’s dark enough you can’t see at all without the external light source.

I like nitesite systems as you can sit back and relax while scanning and looking at the monitor. Rather than having to look through the scope constantly.

I haven’t got a chance to try nitesite yet but that feature looks great gives the neck a rest.
 
ok here is what I ordered Pulsar N550 I got super deal , $399 , and I bought a ATN Ir-850 light with pic adapter ,, I will let u guys know if it works , I want if for say varmits on PCP guns , Next yr I bite the bone and get a THERMO for long range HOG hunts , so total $570 for light and unit ,

I know this isnt latest unit but it was a few years ago , I didnt want anything with too much extras like ballistic apps or other features ,

Next year I save up for a premium Thermo unit for Hog hunts with my 6,5 creedmoor





Mark you saying when I turn on the Atn n55 I cant see the bulb???? I know watching movies on nite hunts I see red and green lights I guess this is not ir ??? i will find out in a few days lol
 
Olevey,

By definition of infrared wavelength, IR is not considered part of the visible spectrum. But that was not my point, I think he had confusion of IR vs a red/green spotting light. I was clarifying he does not need a spotting light or red light to use it.



JWrabbit,

Do you have a sony handycam? If so it works same way as the NV. Basically the NV sensor is sensative to IR and the scope/camera converts it to a visible pic (simplified terms). There are differnt wavelength IR torches (IR flashlights). Some are more effective farther out, but then some animals can see that range. The tourch that comes with the ATN is adequate. I have a couple aftermarket ones ($25-$75) that are better,but not hugely better. 

Look up the ATN group on FB. Tons of info on torches, NV, thermal, etc.