Hatsan What's Going On

[Diddy Outddors]

First off, I was shooting a different target and after a few shots of the pellets being on target I put up a new one. The first one was a little low but 2,3 and 4 was dead nuts, the 5 flew off and the rest was history.
I just need to know what's going on so I can shoot this thing good. Or just get rid of it and get a HW95 in .22.
It's a Hatsan MOD 65 .22 caliber. with a Hawke 3-9x40.
The pellets I was shooting are Umerex. Brimstone 18.67gr. shooting about 25 yards from target.

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

Could be you, could be the gun. Or both, I guess. Do yourself a favor and get the 95. You'll be well pleased you did.

 

[DeanB]

More then likely the gun doesnt like the pellets, you need to try a variety of pellets.. your scope could of kicked the bucket. looks to me liike gun doesnt like pellets.
Also check every screw/bolt to see if any have worked loose.

 

[JP806TX]

First off, I was shooting a different target and after a few shots of the pellets being on target I put up a new one. The first one was a little low but 2,3 and 4 was dead nuts, the 5 flew off and the rest was history.
I just need to know what's going on so I can shoot this thing good. Or just get rid of it and get a HW95 in .22.
It's a Hatsan MOD 65 .22 caliber. with a Hawke 3-9x40.
The pellets I was shooting are Umerex. Brimstone 18.67gr. shooting about 25 yards from target.

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I've also experience "fliers" Soooo I've decided to develope a Standardized Springer inaccuracy/flier trouble shooting guide

1. check all the screws including scope screws (snug them up, and locktite them if they keep loosening)
2. tissue test (possible breech seal issues)
3. chrono the gun (is it consistent? if not, look at piston seal, spring, excessive lube to no lube, )
4. Clean your barrel.
5. Try quality pellets, Crosman CPH, CPL, CPHP, JSB, H&N, RWS, etc, Try different weight pellets
6. lighten your trigger (be careful with this one)
7. Tune/detune your rifle (detuning might make it more pleasant to shoot and help you manage recoil thus shrinking your group)
8. check your crown and leade (for guns with moderators, check for clipping)
9. Troubleshoot possible scope issue (Shoot open sight to check if the scope is busted, swap scopes, mount a laser then use your scope to double check POI shifts and/or cross hair shifts).
10. Try the artillery hold and try not to shoot your gun resting on a solid rest/tripod (a hand under the forearm, softer padding? might help). Really be consistent on rifle positioning, your position and trigger control. Shoot at 10 yards first to get good grouping before going to longer yardages. For me, if I can't group around 3/8" at 10 yards (YMMV if you have a budget springer), I tweaks things until I see good groupings.


There are only five main things affecting accuracy. Gun, Scope, pellet, you and the environment. The environment is easy to control. Just shoot indoors at room temperature. So now you've narrow it down to one of the other four factors or a combination of these... systematically isolate and change one thing at a time to trouble shoot and good luck.

The "you" includes the rifle rest you choose to use/ the way you hold/position your rifle.

 

[Moog]

I was getting occasional flyers. I finally noticed it would happen when the pellet did not fit tightly into the breech. I had no problems when the pellets fit snug. This was with the CPHPs.

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

With a hatsan, the first thing I'd be doing is shoving a pellet down the barrel with a wooden dowel to see how tight or loose the projectile to barrel fit is. I have a $900 hatsan, and the pellet would get tight around the middle of the barrel then essentially fall out the muzzle. Not good. It would stack them, and always, always get a flier. So frustrating. It now has a HW100 barrel on it. Still wish I had just bought a HW100, I've spent far, far too much money trying to fix the issues with it. And have fixed most. But I could have probably bought 2 HW100's. And I still just have a hatsan. Think I just have a mentality of not quitting or giving up on things. Sometimes it is good to give up, and sometimes you really should. This may or may not be one of those cases. But I have NEVER regretted buying a nice gun. Not once, or probably will I ever. But I have regretted plenty of cheaper purchases.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

I was getting occasional flyers. I finally noticed it would happen when the pellet did not fit tightly into the breech. I had no problems when the pellets fit snug. This was with the CPHPs.

Same thing here with several pellet brands over the years. With a set a calipers, measure the largest skirts. Shoot several groups of five. Then shoot several groups of five with the smaller skirts. If this is the problem, it’s best to know before tearing into the gun.

 

[davelarson]

I agree with how important hold is, definitely try to do the same thing each time.
And different pellets till you find a good one.
The HW95 or R9 are excellent rifles.
My friend had a R9 that he bought many years ago but never shot anymore because he said it was a dud.
He let me take it home to try out different pellets and it’s just spectacular.
I found the JSB 8.44 pellets seem to be the best in this rifle.
He was very surprised at the accuracy I got with it.
I’m betting that he probably had the wrong pellet, got frustrated and started trying different holds and then just gave up.
These groups are only at 7 yards sitting in the recliner with the rifle balanced over my crossed knee lol!
Three shot groups on top and then one ten shot group underneath.
I know, only 7 yards, but it shows how consistent the rifle is.
And excellent trigger as well, the Hatsan trigger won’t come close to the Record trigger I would expect.
You would definitely be very satisfied with a HW95!

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

The Quattro trigger on a Hatsan is a four lever trigger like the Rekord. Not as precise but with two 3mm, (3/16 longer than the factory adjustment screws) the Quattro trigger can be adjusted to just over a pound.