I would agree that it is about $200 - $250 more street price.The helos is $200 to $300 more than the Diamondback at 350 isn't it ?
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I would agree that it is about $200 - $250 more street price.The helos is $200 to $300 more than the Diamondback at 350 isn't it ?
I would actually put the SH4 in second place behind the EP5. I have had an SH4 and just picked up the EP5. The glass is MUCH better, not that the SH4 was terrible. My EP5 is very good and competes well against some of my upper tier scopes. Arken is currently doing a 25% discount on their scopes, you also might want to check with @douger to see what he can get you one for. I was going to order one from him but ended up getting one here on a trade. The scopes are very heavy, but also well built. They have a 25 yard minimum parallax, so keep this in mind if you are shooting close in. I’m thinking about trying to adjust mine down to 10 yards but need to look at it more first to see if that can be done.For the buck I would say the Arken SH4. It is big and heavy though.
H-I, What do you consider light? 1.5 lbs. or so? I am interested in the very same thing you are. Some well-meaning folks on this thread are not addressing the weight directly or at all (no offense, guys). I like to hear the ounces. That gets me specifics.Like the title says... What's the most bang for the buck in a 6-24 FFP with really clear glass ? I prefer light and compact but it must have clear glass at 24x.
24oz or so and the Athlon Midas TAC 6-24x50 is probably best all around at 26oz and costing about $540.H-I, What do you consider light? 1.5 lbs. or so? I am interested in the very same thing you are. Some well-meaning folks on this thread are not addressing the weight directly or at all (no offense, guys). I like to hear the ounces. That gets me specifics.
Thanks to all.
Thanks for the information, H-I. I keep hearing about the Midas TAC on AGN. For me, 24 ounces is decent, and while the Midas Tac is two more, it is close and right around the Helix. I am hoping for something around 18 to 20 ounces with the same profile as the Midas or Helix, but that scope may not exist. Also, I presently do not shoot at long, or even mid ranges, so a lower magnification scope with a 40 or 44mm objective lens would probably suit me. Nevertheless, I seem stuck in liking the 6-24x50 scopes. After I told him my concerns, a Pyramyd Air tech recently mentioned the Hawk 3-12x40 Airmax to me. It at least has a 30mm tube. But it does not come too cheaply at $439.99, and it isn’t a feather at 1.26 pounds (about 20 to 21 ounces). Does anyone have any thoughts about Hawke quality, or anything relevant to my little dilemma? By the way, I have a Hawke Advantage 4-16x44 on a Benjamin Marauder. It seems nice, but I don’t know anything different. Here’s another question, while we are here: Compared to the Hawke Vantage, how much better is the glass on the Airmax, Helix, or Midas TAC? And are any Hawkes comparable to the Midas TAC, and so on. I put out lots of questions, I know. Thanks.24oz or so and the Athlon Midas TAC 6-24x50 is probably best all around at 26oz and costing about $540.
I have a Vector Veyron 6-24x44 FFP on my .22 Avenger that is 11.7 inches long and weighs 20.5oz and costs around $280 for the ir model that lights only the center dot. I think the non ir can be had around $50 cheaper. The glass is clear to the edge at 24x but I'm sure it doesn't gather as much light as the larger more expensive scopes and it's a little more picky on eye relief to maintain a full sight but overall a great scope. I would love to own the Athlon but I'm retired and need to make the most of my money so the Vector Veyron 6-24x44 FFP will probably be my go to being the most bang for the buck.
Look at the other compact Vector Veyron scopes 3-12 and 4x16. They're even shorter and lighter, have 30mm tubes and I've never had a problem with them. I own the Veyrons in 3x12, 4x16 and 6x24ir. I also own a 6-24 Vector Taurus. All of them are the best I've seen in their price range.Thanks for the information, H-I. I keep hearing about the Midas TAC on AGN. For me, 24 ounces is decent, and while the Midas Tac is two more, it is close and right around the Helix. I am hoping for something around 18 to 20 ounces with the same profile as the Midas or Helix, but that scope may not exist. Also, I presently do not shoot at long, or even mid ranges, so a lower magnification scope with a 40 or 44mm objective lens would probably suit me. Nevertheless, I seem stuck in liking the 6-24x50 scopes. After I told him my concerns, a Pyramyd Air tech recently mentioned the Hawk 3-12x40 Airmax to me. It at least has a 30mm tube. But it does not come too cheaply at $439.99, and it isn’t a feather at 1.26 pounds (about 20 to 21 ounces). Does anyone have any thoughts about Hawke quality, or anything relevant to my little dilemma? By the way, I have a Hawke Advantage 4-16x44 on a Benjamin Marauder. It seems nice, but I don’t know anything different. Here’s another question, while we are here: Compared to the Hawke Advantage, how much better is the glass on the Airmax, Helix, or Midas TAC? And are any Hawkes comparable to the Midas TAC, and so on. I put out lots of questions, I know. Thanks.
Will do, and thanks.Look at the other compact Vector Veyron scopes 3-12 and 4x16. They're even shorter and lighter, have 30mm tubes and I've never had a problem with them.
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Fifteen percent for this Labor Day, in fact. Thanks.Camera Land has several sales, I’d be watching over the Labor Day week.
Usually 10% off, sometimes more…
You are welcome! Matter of fact, I took advantage of that myself!Fifteen percent for this Labor Day, in fact. Thanks.
Yes. I heard this from Coyote too.You are welcome! Matter of fact, I took advantage of that myself!
Thanks. I bought the Helix 4-14x44. I heard lots of good things about the Midas TAC on AGN, however, and I will remember them.6x24 - Vector Taurus at US$300 is hard to beat and at US$600 the Midas TAC, both have shorter and lighter versions at 3x18 x50 Taurus and Midas TAC at 4X16,
When the time comes that you are again looking for the next scope consider the athlon Midas Tac. You will find it an excellent value for the money.
I’m running the 4x16 on a wildcat mklll and am very impressed. You might also look at the Bushnell Match Pro 6x24x50 I’m running on another PCP.
Most Importantly enjoy the journey.
Mike