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What's up with FX USA?

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I have tried for days now to order parts for my FX Crown, called the numbers and emailed all the email addresses I can find... Nothing not a peep, pretty sad customer service for people that spend over 2K on there products.. Let's just say I'm more then pissed and starting to think I should have bought a RAW!

Has anyone had success getting parts for the FX's? I really want the upgrade power kit for the Crown as I have a HUMA reg and need more hammer weight for the higher BAR, I wanted to shoot slugs but if I can't even gets parts what's the point! 

Anyone feel like trading for a Crown with less then 2 tins through it. 



Mod Edit: Moved to Dealer & Manufacturer Feedback.
 
I'm pretty sure FX Sweden ordered FX USA to stop selling all power upgrades other than the 6.35mm valve seat due to liability. The best way to talk to FX USA is to call every 5 minutes until a person answers. They may have a new phone system now so it may not work anymore. They've always had that, get to it whenever we feel like it attitude in my opinion. No sense of urgency or concern whatsoever and they get an offended tone if you mention it.

That's been my experience... others say FX is doing you a favor by even speaking to you or allowing you to purchase from them. I've never thought that way and try to give all my business to companies that are helpful and appreciate their customers.
 
FX I think is, from a PR stantpoint, playing this one rather badly. 

Distributors, in general not necessarily in airgun land, tend to be set up only to interface with dealers rather than with the public. From a management/systems/etc standpoint, this actually makes a lot of sense because dealing with consumers is challenging and expensive..... and after all, why would dealers get such a large markup (typically almost half the retail value of the product) if they don't provide that value. So if FX USA had been set up purely as a distributor, that'd have been fine and made sense. Nobody would be calling them for parts other than the dealers. Need a part an FX dealer doesn't have? Thats fine, the dealer can just add it to their, probably weekly or bi-weekly, shipment from FX USA. That'd make sense. The dealers, who are set up to handle customer interfacing, can do that and FX USA doesn't have to staff their warehouse with enough CS reps to answer everyone's emails and phone calls. 

Unfortunately what FX USA has done is, not only fail to really clarify what their role with the public is, they've encouraged a shifting of CS from dealers onto themselves handing W&R direct as well as hoarding special parts which they won't release to dealers. And they've done all this without adequately staffing their facility to even pretend to handle the customer support requirements. 

When I had an issue I needed to reach out to FX USA for I think it took a week and a half for my first email to be returned. After that, the rep was perfectly friendly, but replies came at a rate of about one per week. That is..... not great. And I don't even blame the FX reps, clearly they have more workload than they can handle, but I think FX either needs to change their strategy/policy here, or start staffing more people. 

As an aside, as far as I'm concerned, the warranty/service/sales/etc stuff associated with a product I buy is the responsibility of the dealer who sold it to me. If I buy a product, particularly an expensive one, and the dealer tells me it isn't their problem and to contract the manufacturer or distributor, that really frosts my cake. So what if the product needs to go back to the OEM for service? Or it needs parts? It is the responsibility of the dealer to handle that on my behalf. If they can't support a product they retail, they shouldn't be selling it in the first place. So @OP, I realize you might want to be going to FX directly, but I might try contacting whoever you bought it from if I were you. 

Just my take on the whole thing, for whatever it is worth. 
 
The thing I dislike about this situation is that ordering replacement parts is unnecessarily difficult. I want to see a website with parts lists that you just throw items in a shopping cart and order them. Second best would be quick phone call to someone at the US distributor that actually answers and keeps regular hours.

With the present situation I avoid calling (it's like a "last resort"), and recently ended up ordering o-rings off eBay and machining my own Delrin C3 bumpers.

If companies like JSAR have good customer service and perhaps a couple more models in the lineup, they have a good shot at eating FX for lunch, IMO. Now my Impact has been an incredibly accurate rifle, bit as it ages I will want to get parts readily and without hassle.
 
STO is right on the money... in the wholesaler, distributor, dealer world, it is the dealers job to honor warranty and be the interface. Any dealer that passes that back to the customer and tells them it's their hunt need to be brought to task and let everyone here know whats going on. It won't be long before the pressure from customers blows the lid off , sales slip, customers talk smack and dealers start losing business.

I bought a new gun several years ago and it leaked after a week. Took it in and the Dealer told me "it's an o ring you need to fix". I saw red and also saw he had other customers in the shop and loudly told him off and everyone listened. He fixed it on the spot. They are now out of business!



You feel like someone is stealing from you and has absolutely no respect for their customers. Don't let it happen! Use the internet and let everyone know, BUT don't be nasty or rude. State your case and tell us how abused the treatment has made you feel about the dealer/mfg. my .02.
 
Has anyone had any experience with Pyramyd Air and FX service? Since they are now a dealer, I'm curious if their service folks are prepared to handle FX warranty and repair work. Airgun service is a big problem, since most are made in other countries. I've had a couple of good experiences with AOA on Daystate products. My only experience with the FX folks in NC was with the regulator that came in my Royale 400. I just sent them the reg and they returned a new one. I know they have a complete service shop there, but most reports I hear about it are not favorable, especially regarding communication and turnaround time. Just hoping Pyramyd might offer another option, but if they just refer to the service center in NC, that's no improvement.
 
I’ve had good luck with FX-USA ordering parts. I’ve gotten in touch by phone with Norman numerous times over the past year regarding my Crown. This last time a month ago I needed some parts for my .30 FX Bobcat Mk2. I tried calling a couple times, no luck. So I emailed them with the gun, serial number, part number and description of the part from the drawing. The next day I was sent an invoice by e-mail and once I paid, the parts were sent the next day. I received them in less than a week. Easy. 
 
When AOA and FX had the falling out everyone was quick to blame AOA on things and bad mouth them. Maybe AOA had issues like this dealing with them and had enough so started pushing there other brands like Daystate. This pissed FX off and then FX USA came about. Maybe they thought AOA was handling things poorly and now realize that there job wasn't so easy dealing with it themselves. Who knows. I haven't dealt with either FX or AOA but just my speculation from hearing from others. 
 
I’ve had good luck with FX-USA ordering parts. I’ve gotten in touch by phone with Norman numerous times over the past year regarding my Crown. This last time a month ago I needed some parts for my .30 FX Bobcat Mk2. I tried calling a couple times, no luck. So I emailed them with the gun, serial number, part number and description of the part from the drawing. The next day I was sent an invoice by e-mail and once I paid, the parts were sent the next day. I received them in less than a week. Easy.

Let's see, two phone calls, an email, a day wait, and a separate task to make payment? I realize these airgun products are not mass-market items like vehicles and appliances, but there are thousands of companies online that have parts ordering sites with no phone call required, available 24/7, and you can pay simply and immediately, done in 5 minutes. If little independent mom and pop stores can do it, why not Airgun corporations?

For now I've cancelled my pre-order of a Crown Walnut, looking closer at other offerings, preferably made in USA...
 
Let's face it, interest in airguns, PCPs in particular, has really taken off in the last couple years. I have no doubt FX USA is chronically understaffed. Not a good situation for anyone, but remember that it's most likely not the fault of the person answering (or not answering) your phone call. Someone at the top has to make the decision to either shift responsibility for customer interactions elsewhere, or bite the bullet and hire sufficient staff to handle the workload.
 
That’s true, Summer is great! I am an FX fan boy and absolutely love our 3 FX gun’s. I had a recent problem with my Impact MKII and because it was brand new, they fixed it in a matter of days. Since then, I have left a message for Brian and another for Summer over the last week with no response. So, as much as so love my FX gun’s and have always been treated fairly and my repairs done quickly, something is wrong. When the customer service Dept. doesn’t answer the phone for days on end and don’t return phone calls or e-mails for weeks on end, whether it’s under staffing, poor management and or poor ownership, there are people at every level not doing there job! They visit this site, they’re all “in the loop” and know what’s going on. That’s what bothers me, they know there’s a problem and aren’t fixing it! As I said, I am an FX fan boy and have always supported and defended FX and some of it’s stranger business practices. Now though, it almost seems as if they have our money and don’t need to bother with us anymore. Kind of hurts! Good thing some of their products are superb and they have every corner of the sponsorship market covered, praising and pushing their products because this behavior is shameful and will catch up if they don’t fix it. 

With that being said...I love you FX!!! Pull your collective heads out and fix the problems before your customers abandon you!!!

Stoti
 
STO your WAY off target with your dealer markup statement ..... WAY WAY off Target. No airgun retail dealer on the planet gets that kind of money not even if the retail dealer is also the importer!

Standard retailer markup, across industries, is 40%. FX products are even protected by MAP and in some cases regional restrictions. I genuinely curious though, what is the markup on FX guns and what is the markup on other brands? 
 
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