What’s with JSB these days

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Hobbyman2007

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I know this has been covered already for the most part but I’m gonna rant anyways. I was just looking at pellet prices , and it’s not like JSB is the only company that have jacked up their prices but dear lord, 30$ CAD for a tin of 500 x 16 grain pellets? 40$ CAD for 400 x 20 grain? We’re getting real close to rim fire money at this point. Next up is the MRD’s , why on gods green earth would there be 4 different pellets with basically the same name? Shallow, deep, light , grand ? Where are the original redesigns? I’m not even going to get started on the price of slugs. Simply ridiculous.

I’m going out to cast another few thousand 28 grain .218 HP BBT’s . I’ll size to my rifle and call it a day. I sure hope the new rifle likes them.
 
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The upper pellet was the 2019 Original shallow base JSB 25.39.
The middle pellet is JSB 25.39 redesigned they NOW calling the shallow base, which I called the medium base.
The lower pellet is JSB 25.39 redesigned the now call the deep base.
You used to get a tin of JSB 25.39 redesigned and it may have the middle pellets, or the bottom pellets or a mixture of the two.
Now you can choose one or the other, which in better than mixed batches.
But the old Original shallow redesigned, they are not making, the new shallow or the one I called medium base, just rebranded shallow.

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I was noticing the same this weekend. All of my go to heavy weight .177 JSB's are $7 to $10 more than I recall ever paying before. Fortunately, I have plenty of top notch JSB ammo I bought pre-pandemic at what now seem like bargain prices. My problem is that I don't have a lot of lighter pellets. I started off with an unregulated Mrod that was easy to tune for heavy pellets (10-16gr .177 pellets) and a monthly ammo budget that exceeded my shooting by a fair scale. I have years of it. But my pistol likes 7 to 8gr pellets best and my DreamTac is capable of shooting the range of 7 to 13gr pellets. In fact, it does exceptionally well with the light stuff at low power and shorter range while offering around 120 shots per fill. Certainly lets me scratch my itch to shoot!
Thankfully, I am seeing a lot of competition and some promising reviews on some of the more budget .177 ammo. I've got a tin each from 3 brands (Winchester, H&N Excite and Apolo) offering tins of 500 for under $10 I plan on trying out (including some "wadcutters" or flat head pellets - I've always been a dome-head). It sucks to have to go looking for affordable ammo but frankly, JSB's quality hasn't kept up with the prices asked. It looks like there's a few out there looking to take some of JSB's lunch money by bringing an affordable product to market. If they perform, I'll be getting more.
 
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Matt247365 said:
Haven't shopped for pellets in a few years. Wow! have they gone up $$$

30 bucks for a tin of 14.35s????? What the hell 🫣

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From my experience jsb pricing is right about with anything else that shoots well here in the states. What really seems to have slipped over there is QC. AEA and JTS just look more uniform and higher quality. I have not actually checked and compared but from what I have read the looks translate to more uniformity in weight and size when compared to jsb.
 
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Hobbyman2007 said:
... it’s not like JSB is the only company that have jacked up their prices but ...I’m not even going to get started on the price of slugs. Simply ridiculous ...
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I am lurking with the idea for couple years already to swage my own, but never got to a line to purchase - not one but couple dies.
Because all the dies are clones of existing off the shelf pellets and I don't know which will work well with my 22 and 25 cal setups.
The other issue is that I could not find a Canadian source for lead wire, and again what quality compound lead.
Last time I checked 1 euro to $CAD was $1.55 and sinking slowly, don't see the rapids yet but expecting some major sheiss will rain down.
Previous years I was buying pellets and slugs in bricks, I shall still have maybe about 10K shots combined in my locker, I am hoping these can last until end of the season.
But what next?
 
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bigHUN said:
I am lurking with the idea for couple years already to swage my own, but never got to a line to purchase - not one but couple dies.
Because all the dies are clones of existing off the shelf pellets and I don't know which will work well with my 22 and 25 cal setups.
The other issue is that I could not find a Canadian source for lead wire, and again what quality compound lead.
Last time I checked 1 euro to $CAD was $1.55 and sinking slowly, don't see the rapids yet but expecting some major sheiss will rain down.
Previous years I was buying pellets and slugs in bricks, I shall still have maybe about 10K shots combined in my locker, I am hoping these can last until end of the season.
But what next?
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Good to hear from you Atilla. Hope I spelled that right. I’m currently sitting on a fair supply but it sure doesn’t take long to go through a tin of pellets. Ever thought about casting? I do have a few molds and have to run a batch of .25’s soon. Problem with them is they need to be sized down in two steps , lots of work. In .22 pretty much the same story. The good designs seem to be in .224 and .257 . Not airgun calibers and much too long for most magazines. The BBT molds are only good in a few rifles I’ve tried , one being the PP750 with a BSA barrel at sub PAL velocities ( 500 fps ) which really limits the distance.
 
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Hobbyman2007 said:
Good to hear from you Atilla. Hope I spelled that right. I’m currently sitting on a fair supply but it sure doesn’t take long to go through a tin of pellets. Ever thought about casting? I do have a few molds and have to run a batch of .25’s soon. Problem with them is they need to be sized down in two steps , lots of work. In .22 pretty much the same story. The good designs seem to be in .224 and .257 . Not airgun calibers and much too long for most magazines. The BBT molds are only good in a few rifles I’ve tried , one being the PP750 with a BSA barrel at sub PAL velocities ( 500 fps ) which really limits the distance.
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:) nice to hear from you as well.
In early 80's I started my career and for a good decade I was in aluminum high pressure molds manufacturing engineering, NC and CNC programming in a next decade. So pretty much I am well aware of a low gravity casting processes and how to design/fabricate molds and dies.
No I had no interest going that way casting my own, I don't hunt but I score rings @ 50 and 100 ;) so my expectations are on different level.
So far I am going around the pellets quality with resizing off the shelf MRD's and MK1/MK2's, with more less success. But the future is worrying.
 
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Matt247365 said:
Haven't shopped for pellets in a few years. Wow! have they gone up $$$

30 bucks for a tin of 14.35s????? What the hell 🫣

www.pyramydair.com

JSB Diabolo Exact Jumbo Express .22 Cal, 14.3 Grains, Domed, 500ct | Pyramyd AIR

Stock up on JSB Diabolo Exact Jumbo Express .22 Cal, 14.3 Grains, Domed, 500ct at Pyramyd and get the best price for your next outdoor adventure!
www.pyramydair.com

Glad I'm all stocked up!
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Just wow. I looked at pellets not to long back. Like 3 or 4 weeks ago. That went up recently.
 
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