N/A What's your favorite compact PCP?
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Well, if I take the gun outside the noise isn't too bad, but I normally shoot from a seated position inside my house, right behind a window.
And the noise is a bit of a problem to my ears. I've never had much luck with an external moderator. But recently I had Subscriber design a new moderator system for the gun. And it's very effective noise wise, and there was no noticeable POI shift.
This is a long post, but you can jump ahead to read about it.
Is this concept printable?
I have a Compact Veteran .25 with a plenum on it, so the airtube extends past the barrel shroud. That limits what kind of moderator I can put on it, as it has to be the same diameter as the shroud, like this Hugget Belita A couple of years ago, I had a friend who owns a CAD company, design and...
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For my .02 cents the Kalibergun Mini Carbine is smallish narrow feels great in the hands has 14 shot mags can fill to 300b I usually fill to 250-260 for a ton of shots, decent trigger good accurate barrel just a simple uncluttered design...Mine shoots JSB 18's @ 825 and Crosman domes at 875 (love 'em) sort of on the lower power end reg is set around 110b for a lot of shots my preference. The Mini would be a slam dunk choice! I have bonded with mine as amoung 
my favorites. As a big Taipan Veteran fan but never owning a "compact" I would still feel comfortable recommending a Veteran compact as I have utmost respect for the brand. Check 'em out and good shooting!
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I need to do some more reading on the Caiman. It looks awesome.Both of the below guns are short (as you seek), very accurate, eazy to adjust the power, both regulated, very good triggers (and adjustable}. Don't leak (mine don't !), overall, shoot well.
The Caiman is a bit nicer finished with a full covering wood stock. The butt pad adjusts up and down.
The Krait is much more industrial looking, with no wood. The butt pad adjusts both, up and down and in and out to adjust the length of pull.
Both shoulder and aim very easily.
I've got both models and like both models.
The wood stock Krait at the bottom has some good updates from the original Krait, but the regulator is not easily adjustable. It is a few dollars cheaper.
I don't have one of these...yet !
AirMaks Caiman MK2 Airgun - Utah Airguns
The AirMaks CAIMAN MK2 Airgun is not only lightweight but also comfortable to use. Its design is extraordinary, with a wooden stock that has an ergonomic, ambidextrous grip, a height-adjustable butt-pad, and a UIT rail for accessory mounting.utahairguns.com
Or -
AirMaks Arms KRAiT Standard Bottle Airguns
AirMaks Arms KRAiT Standard Bottle Airguns
Or - (a wood stock Krait), newer model of the above Krait.
AirMaks KRAiT Lite Standard Bottle Airgun - Utah Airguns
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Edgun Leshiy classic , with .25 barrel or switch to any other barrel .177 to .30 in a few seconds.
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BSA Ultra. Mine is compact, balanced, and dead-nuts accurate. I sometimes wish it was a repeater instead of a single shot, but if I pick my shots, it doesn’t really matter.
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Leshiy 2 in .22 w/250mm barrel. Accurate after the 1st shot and pretty quiet in the backyard with the stock moderator stuffed with STO guts. #2 is .22 BRK Ranger. Easy to carry slung or unslung and reliable.
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L2 in .22 with 250mm barrel, stock shroud with STO insert and red dot makes for a quick gun to grab. If you don’t need the shot count the standard tank makes it smaller than with the 350cc tank I use. Even more compact when folded.
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My suggestion is in a different weight and price category than the others but not a different accuracy category. This is my SPA P35-22 in a home made cherry stock (it comes in a good quality plastic stock). Weighs about 5 lbs unscoped and well under 30 inches long. Mine came tuned to about 32 fpe. So far I've shot one 200 on the 30 yard challenge with it (and 3 199s). It sells for under $500 but is only available in the U. S. from Krale. If you'd rather buy from a U. S. source the Stoeger Bullshark is almost the same gun with a 40 mm longer barrel and about a pound more weight. These are regulated guns and I get about 70 shots from a 250 bar fill. It is also easy to make quiet since the shroud shifts forward allowing either a simple hair curler mod to the baffles or my choice a printed moderator in the shroud. Much cheaper than metal external moderators and just as effective in reducing the report.
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It might be worth mentioning scope height in your decision. Tactical and bullpup rifles tend to have a greater scope to barrel distance, this doesn’t alter accuracy and can actually help at longer ranges where hold over becomes less critical but at closer ranges this can become more difficult to judge hold under particular in a stalking hunting scenario.
Personally I would look for a traditional stocked carbine with a sfp scope not ffp or better still a fixed magnification scope as it’s easier to make hold over/under adjustments on the fly.
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Personally I would look for a traditional stocked carbine with a sfp scope not ffp or better still a fixed magnification scope as it’s easier to make hold over/under adjustments on the fly.
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The Veteran has anti double feed, the transfer port is a separate machined piece behind the barrel instead of being drilled into the barrel, and the regulator is different. Both are great guns with unbelievable accuracy and great triggers. But in my opinion the Veteran is just a little bit better. The anti double feed is my most favorite feature, not that big a deal if you’re shooting off of your patio but in the woods hunting, it’s great being able to decock a recock.
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This is my choice . A Prod and a Vet short. The Prod is .22 cal 12-13 fpe , and the Veteran 1 is .177 cal 18 fpe . The Vet is 23.5" long , super quiet and is a heavy duty yet precision built PCP. It weighs.6.5lbs , same as the FX bullpup compacts , but with a solid barrel and stout build . ok plus 2 mags and single-shot tray plus extra orings , anti double load . And you can't buy them new anymore. 60-70 shots per fill.
The Vet 1 standard is closer to the size of other manufacturers compacts . But weighs in at 7.5 lbs.
The Prod is around 4.5 lbs , accurate and is great out to 30 yards or so and doesn't punch holes in the shops metal siding or roof . Don't let 13 fpe fool you, it can and has taken out many pests . It gets a bunch of shots per fill. I used a hand pump for years .
The Vet 1 standard is closer to the size of other manufacturers compacts . But weighs in at 7.5 lbs.
The Prod is around 4.5 lbs , accurate and is great out to 30 yards or so and doesn't punch holes in the shops metal siding or roof . Don't let 13 fpe fool you, it can and has taken out many pests . It gets a bunch of shots per fill. I used a hand pump for years .
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I built this thing. 22.5" OAL, super quiet, and 40 shots a 12 fpe. Quarter sized groups at 25 yards. Can crank it up to 20 shots at 18 fpe, but the accuracy starts to go south from all the muzzle blast out of the 9.5" barrel.
Also has a 19" barrel I can swap super quick that will give me 25 fpe for 30 shots.
Also has a 19" barrel I can swap super quick that will give me 25 fpe for 30 shots.
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Very interesting, what was the donor action? Thanks for sharing, I love seeing the custom work on AGN.
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Beeman 2028 pistol with a beeman 1358 bullpup trigger system/scope riser and pistol grip off the stock. Then I just made a stock out of stacked wood sheets and molded together with fiberglass resin. It weighs less than 5 lbs scoped.
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