On The Nofos the first thing I did was throw away the original magazine and order a Carm. I already knew but the rest of the gun is stellar
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I absolutely agree. The gun is just a thing it’s the care that goes into it that matters and that’s what is lackingI found that it's not just Guns, It's everything these days, just poor quality parts and workman ship on everything practically, I guess finding good workers is like winning the lottery, but keeping them is a whole other story, look at the car industry, nothing but junk, and they want big $$$$$$$ for junk, it's a good thing to know how to fix the defective stuff they sell us, that's why I always buy the fixers, get it cheap and fix it myself for pennies......
I guess I'm not alone. In the last 2 years I've had to return 6 guns that were defective in one way or another right out of the box or within a couple of dozen shots.How often do you buy a new gun and find it defective in one way or another? I can’t be the only one.. Mine is like every other one has had issues. From $99-$3000 doesn’t matter. Share please. If manufacturers don’t fix this and we keep buying and fixing they’ll just keep building crap at rising prices every year. Be professional with your answers please we don’t want to shut business down rather change business practices for the betterment of our beloved sport.
Stupidest thing dealers charging for basic things like filling, leak test and shoot the gun for function. When I buy a new car they don’t give me the car and say good luck
lol ok maybe not a great example but you know what I mean lolOh? Those extra charges aren't for the new car smell.
The first time I did the 10 shot test was the last, because they ran the pellets through the chrony but didn't perform a group test with said shots. So I paid 10 dollars for an fps spread to find out on my end that it was grouping like 2 inches at 25yds with the best pellets.Stupidest thing dealers charging for basic things like filling, leak test and shoot the gun for function. When I buy a new car they don’t give me the car and say good luck
I did, I'm gonna put an order today.Many threads here on the Notos Magazine failures. PM @Firewalker He sells ones that work properly.
Ive got 5 or 6 factory mags for my Notos and haven't had a problem with any of them except screw came loose in one which I tightned.Not sure why but I forgot to mention the notos since just getting one uesterday and it shoot phenominally with the Jts 18.8gr wadcutters, crosman 14.3gr, and the polymags! But that's without the mag found out the hard way that the mag picks and chooses when it wanta to feed the pellets corrently and when it wants to shove them in sideways, what gives? I had to stop by an Ace and buy a brass rod to tap it out.
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In know. That was meant for the moderatorsI don't consider it "Bashing the Manufacturer" when I am sold a Product that is faulty. They made it, they took MY money. It's up to them to make sure that the item does what they told Me it would when they sold it to me.
I dunno I’ve been buying RAWs that were built by Martin and that works really well. I don’t see myself buying any more FX or other big brand airguns with doodads and adjustments galore. Things just never seem to get better in the owners hands.This just seems like something we can't get away from.
Damn shame....
We as buyers need to reward companies that do things well and not go spreading our money on new designs and new brands that may not end up working. Right now our buying habits punish a manufacturer or vendor for long term thinking like proven designs and good people and high quality. A vendor is not going to pay their people well and focus on quality if we the public aren’t willing to wait for things sometimes and if we are going to change our minds as soon as the next new thing comes out.I found that it's not just Guns, It's everything these days, just poor quality parts and workman ship on everything practically, I guess finding good workers is like winning the lottery, but keeping them is a whole other story, look at the car industry, nothing but junk, and they want big $$$$$$$ for junk, it's a good thing to know how to fix the defective stuff they sell us, that's why I always buy the fixers, get it cheap and fix it myself for pennies......
Just wait until Crosmans are made in the Daisy factory without the processes and tribal knowledge to achieve it.There’s absolutely no excuse when Crosman was able to build $40 gun (1322, 1377) and have no issues. Sure it wasn’t a pcp but they just work