I only hunt. All the people I hunt with, and myself, zero at 50. Always have, always will. Works for me.
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I have my Avenger shooting this way:
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And if you go into Chair Gun app tool box you can click Calculation Items then Optimal Zero Range
Then you can set the "kill zone" size
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And I am zeroed at 30 yards now but it suggests a 39 yard zero.
My 30 yard zero pellet arc
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VS a 39 Zero:
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Would be interested in hearing if anyone else does these calculations and actually uses the suggested zeroes. I don't cause I like not having a hold UNDER. But it looks like only .25" under.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well what is interesting is this isn't suggesting a trajectory apex because it is saying to have my far zero at 39 yards, which is my 2nd zero per the graph. My 1st (close) zero looks like 21 yards. And in between those is the apex. My 30 yard zero is closer to zeroing at the apex.I start with Optimal Zero for a hunting gun & actually go out & check it.
When I got my first PCP the house where I was living allowed 27 yards of shooting indoors. Turns out that was the Optimal Zero for the gun, rings, projectile & tune I was using, assuming a 1/2" kill zone. I had no idea & didn't figure this out for months until I got my second PCP & started tuning, doing barrel swaps, etc.
So that's what I always try for.
I do not do field target or any similar disciplines but can see the appeal of zeroing to trajectory apex.
Only a couple of my scopes actually have click turretsI'm with Motorhead, zero to the top of the trajectory, apex. FT shooter.
It took a while, some years ago to get my head around this concept. Definitely works for me.
Now I just range, dial the clicks, job sorted.
Yes it takes a bit of setting up but all part of the hobby.
No.. wrong. My target is rarely blocked not that it goes forever even a scope runs out of holdover or under . Also woth a scope that holdover/under is alot more drastic . Like i run my gauntlet its 10m to 75y. Load point shoot. Now if id ise a loopy mortor round pellet maybe your thing holds more true , but i dont.. maybe more to hold under at 25-30y ?Powder gun .. pretty much shot within realistic distance for Irons ....
Pellet gun not so much as your elevation hold quickly has the muzzle of rifle obstructing the view of target your attempting to hit![]()
As you know I shoot a bunch of low power pistols, but I sight them at eighty feet, because that is where my backstop is. Almost all of them are at their peak "maxed out" adjustment, and still very accurate.I've noticed that for certain slingers I have the scopes zerod at a distance; others at a different distance.is this normal?
I feel like it is(i base the zero on either use or max range for slinger)...just wondering what you all think/do for zero.
*I have 1 zeroed at 100~
A few at 50, 40, 30....
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It's one of those open ended situations, debates, decision situations.Only a couple of my scopes actually have click turretsthe rest are set and under caps.
Maybe that's where I'm getting lost
However I do get each scope set and use it at that set range. Just have to get my D.O.P.E. lists in orderhad to start new books bc I had too many random notes mixed up
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This^^^If using HOLDOVER for POI differences over differing distances .... *ONE ZERO & that being based upon pellets weight, speed and scope height.
When NOT zeroed at pellets flight apex (* For most this falls in the @ 23 to 35 yard distances ) you will have 2 zeros and a span in distance where a HOLD UNDER to get a correct POI would be required .. Thats bad and will create unnecessary miss's
I use that data to get sorta close. After that it’s go shoot and see the real story.I have my Avenger shooting this way:
View attachment 357256
And if you go into Chair Gun app tool box you can click Calculation Items then Optimal Zero Range
Then you can set the "kill zone" size
View attachment 357257
And I am zeroed at 30 yards now but it suggests a 39 yard zero.
My 30 yard zero pellet arc
View attachment 357258
VS a 39 Zero:
View attachment 357259
Would be interested in hearing if anyone else does these calculations and actually uses the suggested zeroes. I don't cause I like not having a hold UNDER. But it looks like only .25" under.
What are your thoughts on that?
Hope your dog gets better!27 yards indoors was at my old house. With hindsight, that was a dumb thing to give up, although new house has a lot of advantages for us.
At new house I can shoot about 11 yards in my garage and 14 yards in my basement but it's just not the same.
Yeah I understood that one of the charts you posted above was more or less trajectory apex and the other Optimal Zero.
I'm home with a sick dog and pouring rain outside to I entered your tune and zero into Chairgun.
With the 30 yard zero and a 1/2" kill zone I'm getting a Point Blank Range of 19.4 to 38.3 yards.
With Optimal Zero is calculated as 39.6 yards I'm getting a Point Blank Range of 17.0 to 43.4 yards.
In your situation I would probably use Optimal Zero. I wouldn't mind being 1/4" high at 30 yards for shooting metal targets.
But even then that depends on what you mean by far when it comes to your target shooting.