Which to choose looking for insight

Maybe take a look at the DAR gen III for $299. It's a rifle, not a carbine or a bull-pup if that important.
I own one, along with the notos and it's considerably better IMO. Better accuracy, cocking lever, magazine, trigger and overall quality.

The notos is still very good, a bit cheaper and it is smaller and lighter if that matters to you.
 
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