Whiscombe Air Rifle Why?

No expert here, but I believe the "other guy" is Fred Vollmer. He used to occasionally post a gun or parts for sale on the AA classifieds. The only reason I know about him is spending Waaaaay too much time checking the classifieds! I think Johnny Piston is a Whiscombe owner -he may chime in.

There was some years way back a Whiscombe owners forum via Yahoo. Fred Postered there a lot. If I recall he lived in Florida. and had a complete collection of Whiscombe airrifles.
 
One for sale on eBay jw80 if anyone is looking for one, pricey tho$$$$.


As much as I would like to have a Whiscombe again I wouldn`t buy it for that kind of money even if the money was handed down to me. They are the Rolls Royce of springpowedered airguns ofcouse but still....
The JW80 does a full +30ft(ibs in .22cal. Mine did +23 ft/ibs in .177cal. With the right pellet its a 130 yard plinker. Not many springers can compete with that.
 
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I have a JW80 MK2 with 3 barrels that I've discussed here a bit. Acquired from a close friend's estate a couple years ago.
Until a few weeks ago I only marveled at it's beauty, having no knowledge how to operate it.
A list member reached out to me with extensive info on what to do and what not to do,
along with plenty of advise on lubrication, etc. I've only shot it a few times before the weather here turned bad.
Kris R.
Monson, MA USA

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I'd like to see either Air Arms or Hatsan make a copy of it.
Air Arms, because I believe they'd do it right, and while I doubt they'd equal the originals, I'm sure they'd still be gorgeous and very accurate.
Hatsan, because they'd do it cheap and dirty, crank the power up to 11 and sell it for under $600.
 
That third picture shows the tremendous recoil of these powerful airguns.
I was offered a JW 50 about 15 years ago for £200 ($300 at the time as the seller needed money fast.
He sold his motor cycle instead when someone told him the rifle was worth double what he was asking.
RIK,,,,As you should know , there is no recoil in the Whiscombe. We at CASA shoot year round and I was checking my dope sheet in a100 degree summer day
I missed a 50 for $750 bought a 60 with good trigger $1250.........not such a great deal on this Tip 50 ,but it groups
 
RIK,,,,As you should know , there is no recoil in the Whiscombe. We at CASA shoot year round and I was checking my dope sheet in a100 degree summer day
I missed a 50 for $750 bought a 60 with good trigger $1250.........not such a great deal on this Tip 50 ,but it groups
Ive never shot a Whiscombe, but...

Wouldnt there be twice the recoil as a single spring?
With the 2 opposed forces, sort of cancelling each other out?

As far as recoil, how would a Whiscombe compare, to a similar powered PCP rifle?
 
Ive never shot a Whiscombe, but...

Wouldnt there be twice the recoil as a single spring?
With the 2 opposed forces, sort of cancelling each other out?

As far as recoil, how would a Whiscombe compare, to a similar powered PCP rifle?
The two pistons oppose each other and cancel out each other's recoil. I believe John Whiscombe even designed it with the ability to cancel out the recoil of the pellet being accelerated through the barrel, so felt recoil should actually be less than that of a PCP. That said, a PCP would still have the edge when it comes to accuracy due to its shorter locktime.

The reference to its extreme recoil a few posts back was obviously a joke making reference to the picture where the rifle is being held pointing upwards as if it had just blown the shooter's shoulder back.
 
Why doesn’t someone build them currently if they were/are so good?
You’ve got to keep in mind that these were very low production, hand made, high end rifles. If someone were to start production of them again at the same level of craftsmanship they’d likely retail for $3000-4000.

At the time they were made they were perhaps the best airguns available anywhere, but that was at a time when PCPs weren’t common. Times have changed and a modern Whiscombe wouldn't be able to match the best PCP's in terms of accuracy, but due to the complexity of the design it still wouldn't be a cheap rifle to make even if you were to manufacture it in China with a synthetic stock.

Just imagine a Whiscombe Tactical Swarm Gen3i.