Whiscombe Air Rifle Why?
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My answer as to why, is the issue with modern air gunners. The old days of precision machining and quality have been replaced by affordable “cookie cutter “ airguns. Why pay for old school hand made/fitted when I can buy a better new gun? Now days it’s all about getting the same gun as everyone else. The guys who appreciate the Daystate’s, Theoben’s, Falcon’s , old HW guns are a dying breed.
To me it’s like an old watch, the craftsmanship is the answer.
To me it’s like an old watch, the craftsmanship is the answer.
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Think you are a bit low in your cost estimate . in todays market and the hand work that is involved i would say add another 2K .
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Dual, it was the claim that the Whiscombe has no recoil.
I know that there is very little recoil from one, but if the pellet goes one way the gun goes in the opposite direction.
It's simply a matter of momentum. Or rather, momentum in its simplest terms.
I know that there is very little recoil from one, but if the pellet goes one way the gun goes in the opposite direction.
It's simply a matter of momentum. Or rather, momentum in its simplest terms.
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Are you aware that there is a 2 piston, Giss like system in the Whiscombe rifles? (Equal and opposite...)
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My understanding was that the opposing pistons were balanced so as to cancel out even that little bit of recoil generated by the pellet being accelerated.
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The opposing pistons counteract the movement of the gun while the pistons are moving.
But the air that pushes the pellet in one direction pushes the gun in the opposite direction.
Make that "Absolutely no FELT recoil" and I'd agree, because the recoil will be too light to be felt.
But it will still exist.
Put it another way. If a tiny fly lands on your hat you would not feel it. Would that mean the fly did not land on it?
But the air that pushes the pellet in one direction pushes the gun in the opposite direction.
Make that "Absolutely no FELT recoil" and I'd agree, because the recoil will be too light to be felt.
But it will still exist.
Put it another way. If a tiny fly lands on your hat you would not feel it. Would that mean the fly did not land on it?
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rikkochet said:
... my question was just me querying a ridiculous statement.
What was the ridiculous statement?
it was the claim that the Whiscombe has no recoil.
I know that there is very little recoil from one, but if the pellet goes one way the gun goes in the opposite direction.
Put it another way. If a tiny fly lands on your hat you would not feel it. Would that mean the fly did not land on it?
beerthief said:
I have shot one , absolutely NO felt recoil , simply amazing
Make that "Absolutely no FELT recoil" and I'd agree, because the recoil will be too light to be felt.
But it will still exist.
and there was mention of a ridiculous statement 
... my question was just me querying a ridiculous statement.
What was the ridiculous statement?
it was the claim that the Whiscombe has no recoil.
I know that there is very little recoil from one, but if the pellet goes one way the gun goes in the opposite direction.
Put it another way. If a tiny fly lands on your hat you would not feel it. Would that mean the fly did not land on it?
beerthief said:
I have shot one , absolutely NO felt recoil , simply amazing
Make that "Absolutely no FELT recoil" and I'd agree, because the recoil will be too light to be felt.
But it will still exist.
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I wrote nearly the same thing a few posts ago, but from what I've read of Whiscombes, the dual piston design was originally set up to balance out the forces of both the pistons movement AND the pellets movement. In other words, the front piston produces a tiny bit more force than the rear piston and that extra force is meant to neutralize the recoil caused by expelling the air and the pellet.
Now of course the rifle will produce different velocities and different power levels with different pellets so if it was set up for a 14 grain pellet and you're shooting 18 grain pellets out of it then there might be an imperceptible amount of recoil.
Now of course the rifle will produce different velocities and different power levels with different pellets so if it was set up for a 14 grain pellet and you're shooting 18 grain pellets out of it then there might be an imperceptible amount of recoil.
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