Who's into LPVO's?

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I have a 1-6x24 on a Leshiy & am getting a 1-8x24 shortly. 

I guess I have high cheekbones & the typical LPVO is easy to install down low.

Target acquisition is nice at 1x so I'm surprised there isn't more demand for them instead of red-dot/prismatic/holographic sights which seem to have a place amongst airgunners.

Not sure I really need 1x but I'm not finding any 2x minimum scopes with sufficient FOV so I'm going to play with LPVOs for a while & see if they work for me.

Do wish there were more options with side focus & what I'll call "typical" reticles. 


 
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I am not really "into" them, but I did just get this LPVO to loose a lot of weight and have quicker target acquisition on low power. (I found myself "hunting" for the game with the scope at higher power levels and this takes too much time, unless your sitting around pesting birds on a roof or the like.) I spent a decent amount of change on this scope because it checked off all of the boxes I wanted in the LPVO. There is only a couple of things I would have different: an illuminated holdover reticle on low power, and possibly going to 10 power. Otherwise I can use it just like my dialer scopes and also can hold over if I choose to.

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Don't get a FFP if you may have trouble seeing the reticle at low power (the holdover reticle is tiny at 1 power), and if you don't use the reticle for holding over much for measuring distance. If they were not so expense I would try one in a SFP model and just use high power for measuring or seeing.

Here it is a 250 yards on 8 power.

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Hello I recently purchased a Meopta 1-6 SFP BDC3 scope and mounted it on my RTI priest its been on the gun for about 3 weeks now and I am pretty happy with it so far. My range only goes out to 45 yds and on the bench at 6x keeping 1/2 inch groups, at the bird feeder at 10yds at 1x it also does its job keeping unwanted guests out. Have not had the opportunity to shoot past 45yds yet but results so far seem promising. For an ar they are very usefull and depending on your airgun you can set it up as on your ar and not burn up all your ammo, running drills with your airgun instead. Hope that helps Eric.
 
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I am not really "into" them, but I did just get this LPVO to loose a lot of weight and have quicker target acquisition on low power. (I found myself "hunting" for the game with the scope at higher power levels and this takes too much time, unless your sitting around pesting birds on a roof or the like.) I spent a decent amount of change on this scope because it checked off all of the boxes I wanted in the LPVO. There is only a couple of things I would have different: an illuminated holdover reticle on low power, and possibly going to 10 power. Otherwise I can use it just like my dialer scopes and also can hold over if I choose to.

Don't get a FFP if you may have trouble seeing the reticle at low power (the holdover reticle is tiny at 1 power), and if you don't use the reticle for holding over much for measuring distance. If they were not so expense I would try one in a SFP model and just use high power for measuring or seeing.
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I did read your follow up in that thread, by the way.

I didn't mention it at the time but I had a Styrka 1-6x24 illuminated with side parallax I was waiting on some rings for. I picked it up on an Amazon flash sale for $200 a while back. Waiting for the right rings and dealing with an inner ear issue put that project on the back burner.

I haven't hunted with it but have finally shot it indoors at 14 yards and took it out into the woods for some plinking, shooting pine cones off of logs, etc.

It does focus closer than 10 yards but when looking out into the ravine behind my house and scrolling through the parallax it is much more subtle than doing the same with any of my 32mm objective scopes and even my one 30mm objective scope.

There is a difference between focused and non-focused but it's just not as obvious when looking through it outdoors. If I pick up a rifle with a 32mm objective on it and it's focused at the wrong yardage I immediately think about reaching for focus adjustment.

With the 24mm Styrka the differences between minimum and 50 yards is much less noticeable.

The Styrka is clearly not going to make the final cut for me but I'm glad I got to try an LPVO with side parallax without spending March prices. Next I'll try the 1-8x24 with fixed parallax and look into if the front lens can be adjusted to some closer focus position.

I do hope to see more 1x or 1.5x minimum scopes with side focus on the market.

Decided to post this here rather than your thread since this is an LPVO specific thread.
 
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I really enjoy the scopes you are calling LPVOs. Never heard that term before. But with 99% of them having fixed 100 yards parallax I find they don't work well for me for airgunning when most things are within 50 yards and I shoot primarily under 20 yards. There is only one scope brand which actually provides parallax adjustment on a 1-8x or 1-10x scope and that is March. And not only do they advertise the scopes as focusing down to 10 yards, but I will tell you they can reliably focus down to 3 yards or less. 

So I have a March F 1-8x FFP on my Leshiy 2 which is nothing short of amazing. It's got a nice usable reticle on 1x and 8x. 

Also have a March 1-10x SFP on another airgun and enjoy it almost as much - not quite as clear as the March F.

If you can find it the new March F 1-10x has the dual SFP/FFP reticle which is supposed to be impressive. 


 
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Just for other options, Athlon is coming out with some 1-10's, as well as a Helos G2 2-12x42 FFP that focuses down to 10Y. I found myself hardly using 1x with my LPVO's, at this point I'm ready to sell at least one of them because even on 8x when I'm just plinking I feel like at this magnification it still isn't enough. 

A 1-10 mag ratio isn't easy to get to work well IMO without a side focus so I doubt I'll be trying one but 10x is getting more useful to me vs 6x or 8x for my purposes.

Gonna get 1 of the 2-12 Helos for sure as soon as they are in stock and have a feeling its going to be a favourite of mine! I'll suffer the extra weight for the sake of versatility! 

https://athlonoptics.com/product/helos-btr-gen2-2-12x42-dmr-scope/
 
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So I have a March F 1-8x FFP on my Leshiy 2 which is nothing short of amazing. It's got a nice usable reticle on 1x and 8x.
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Ctshooter I think there are there are three reticle options on the F 1-8's. Which reticle do you have? And by usable at 1x do you mean that you can see the holdover points at 1x or that you can just see the reticle?

Also, do you have the Shorty 1-8 or just the regular 1-8? I believe you've posted pictures in the past and it was the regular but I may have been looking at your 1-10.
 
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I really enjoy the scopes you are calling LPVOs. Never heard that term before. But with 99% of them having fixed 100 yards parallax I find they don't work well for me for airgunning when most things are within 50 yards and I shoot primarily under 20 yards. There is only one scope brand which actually provides parallax adjustment on a 1-8x or 1-10x scope and that is March. And not only do they advertise the scopes as focusing down to 10 yards, but I will tell you they can reliably focus down to 3 yards or less. 

So I have a March F 1-8x FFP on my Leshiy 2 which is nothing short of amazing. It's got a nice usable reticle on 1x and 8x. 

Also have a March 1-10x SFP on another airgun and enjoy it almost as much - not quite as clear as the March F.

If you can find it the new March F 1-10x has the dual SFP/FFP reticle which is supposed to be impressive. 

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That term probably isn't that recognizable in the airgun world. But in 3-gun competition, it's used extensively. I looked up that March 1-10X. It is in production, and apparently they are made to order, depending on what you want for illumination and or a reticle of your choosing.

There are a couple interesting LPVO's over on Edgun West. Of course the Dedal Stalker has a following in the airgun world, but its a fixed power at 6X. And the Delta Stryker 1X6 looks interesting, too. Fixed parallax at 100, but I mostly shoot at 50 yds or more, so I don't think that would bother me. I'd have to sell a kidney, maybe more to score a March:)
 
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So I have a March F 1-8x FFP on my Leshiy 2 which is nothing short of amazing. It's got a nice usable reticle on 1x and 8x.
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Ctshooter I think there are there are three reticle options on the F 1-8's. Which reticle do you have? And by usable at 1x do you mean that you can see the holdover points at 1x or that you can just see the reticle?

Also, do you have the Shorty 1-8 or just the regular 1-8? I believe you've posted pictures in the past and it was the regular but I may have been looking at your 1-10.
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I purchased mine used here on AGN and, for me, it my have been one of my best scopes ever purchased. It came with the FMC-2 reticle which I think is just awesome. As you can see below its design is very useful at the both ends of the zoom.

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I just found these affordable Atibal X 1-10×30 FFP scopes that have nearly every function and power level needed for airgun ranges, except for the beloved parallax adjustment. Having just talked to Atibal's sales staff, I also discovered that every year after they come out with an optic with a new feature and display it at the trade shows, the next year Vortex will come out with the same scope features (after their sales reps visit the Atibal booth and finger the scopes all up).

https://atibal-optics.com/products/atibal-x-1-10x35-ffp#

With regard to parallax and focusing I did find, through my use of them, that even though the LPVO's are usually fixed parallax, at lower power levels they do focus down to close range. Though you are not going to see the cellulose grain of a cardboard box with the lower power, you will see the reticle and target clearly. It is only at high magnification levels and looking at close-range targets that they do not focus clearly. We airgun enthusiasts like to play with high power at closer ranges, so parallax is important to us. But it also has to be adjusted constantly when going between targets at any range to stay in clear focus. That could be a real hindrance to use in a true hunting situation whether it be for meat or a trophy for the wall. I have come to like being able to come on target by simply throwing the power lever to what level I want to see at and hold over for the yardage or, alternatively, to throw the power lever and dial my elevation turret for the yardage.
 
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I tried the Alpha 6 LPVO--1-6x. Was impressed by the reticle, daylight bright illumination and clear glass. A real bargain. However, because there was no parallax adjustment it just wasn't going to work for me at the distances I shoot an air rifle. It was fuzzy at 25 yards. I'm guessing the parallax is fixed at 100.
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I'm fairly certain that the Athlon rep told me their newest Ares ETR UHD 1-10 is going to be parallax adjustable, though it does not show it as such on the website. It is one of their top of the line scopes so it is not inexpensive either.
 
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I just found these affordable Atibal X 1-10×30 FFP scopes that have nearly every function and power level needed for airgun ranges, except for the beloved parallax adjustment.

https://atibal-optics.com/products/atibal-x-1-10x35-ffp#
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I wasn't aware of the FFP XV2 reticle. I thought only the X reticle was available if FFP.

Regardless, I emailed Atibal and asked if these scopes could be ordered with the parallax adjusted to a closer range. Also asked if somebody adjusted the parallax themselves if it would void the warranty.

As expected, answers were No and Yes respectively.

With the 30mm objective one might expect more parallax error compared to 24mm objective.

Still an intriguing scope. As is their SFP version.
 
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I love lpvo’s and run them on all my hunting big bores now. I also use plain lower power fixed optics sometimes. I have a vintage 4x kahles on my .457 Texan LSS. I have Burris XTR 1-4 and Athlon Ares 1-4 on my .40 Epox badger and Winchester 70-45.

I’m actually trying to replace all my higher power scopes on my big bores, with lpvo’s. I still like higher power scopes on my small bores. Too hard to see the holes in stuff otherwise.
 
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I have a Bushnell 1-8 & I moved the front objective lens to adjust parallax to 40 yard. It works real well. Not the best glass. I tried a 1-10 Arrowhead. Real good glass for the money. If they just had SF. However as you know if you have tried any LPVO at low powers the parallax & image is pretty good at any range, except when on the highest powers. . I ordered the new March Shorty 1-10 has a daylight bright dot & parallax via SF to 10 yards. The dot is in the SFP so it stay the same size at any power. They have a dual reticle consisting of both the SFP & FFP . I never liked any FFP I ever tried , so thought I might try this one. I ordered it from Don at Long Range Supply. He had one in stock with the exposed tactical turrets , but I wanted caps. Probably won't get it until mid Feb. Have another Wildcat compact coming & think it should go well together. 
 
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