IME, .22 @9-10 foot pounds is ideal for indoor dairy pesting. .177 will put holes in roofs easier than .22 at the same energy due to concentrating the same energy in a smaller foot print.
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Why .22 and why .30
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.22 is cheap and is the workhorse around the house for most of your killin in 'lower power guns' ..which is a virtue if you want to keep it confined to your own yard with minimal damage to the neighbors ... flower pots
.30 *ahem* well .30 is heavier hitting for the more robust pests, but my opinion is nothing a .35 wont do better for the same money .. may come down to the gun caliber availability, if'n say you want a special purpose gun to 'strip the paint' off something and its only available in .30, id go for it, otherwise id want .35 .. my take ..
.30 *ahem* well .30 is heavier hitting for the more robust pests, but my opinion is nothing a .35 wont do better for the same money .. may come down to the gun caliber availability, if'n say you want a special purpose gun to 'strip the paint' off something and its only available in .30, id go for it, otherwise id want .35 .. my take ..
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The prices argument is a tough one to swallow as numbers lie and liars use numbers.
JSB .22 Monster Redesign 25gr - $24.99 for 350
JTS .25 25gr - $9.99 for 150 = $23.31 for 350
.25 pellets are actually cheaper than .22 pellets - see how I did that.
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Why heeeel, if your gunna call me a liar, I'd better step up my game!
Predator GTO .22 Cal, 11.75 Grains, Domed, Lead-Free, 200ct, $29.99, $0.150 / Rd
But since your just being you, I was just reflecting on my purchases as of late, not indicting an industry.
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My experience is that .25’s cost about twice as much as .22’s, but neither one will break the bank. I figure they average around 3 cents each for .22’s and 6 cents each for .25’s.
That said, sometimes you can find dirt cheap .22’s. I bought Norma domes for just over a penny per shot not that long ago, but I’ve never seen a similar deal on .25’s.
That said, sometimes you can find dirt cheap .22’s. I bought Norma domes for just over a penny per shot not that long ago, but I’ve never seen a similar deal on .25’s.
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I am new to pcps(3 yrs). I am mostly a hunter of squirrels (grays and fox) I have used all calibers in pcp and 20cal in pistons on squirrels. Strictly pellets. I tried the slug thing and you can keep it. I have 22lr and 17s that do that with ease. I don't need to reinvent the wheel when the 22lr does what you guys are trying to do with slugs in air rifle. Of all the calibers I have shot squirrels with to me the 25 is perfect with the hades or barracudas. It hits much harder and has more anchoring power to me. I'm not talking pushing it hard either 880-920 maybe. I shot squirrels with 30cal 56gr zans at almost 100fpe and to me seemed about the same. To be honest if I'm going to shoot a pellet gun close to 100fpe I'll use the 22lr with some subsonic with a can and be just as quiet or maybe even quieter.
I'm in a rural area and don't have neighbors to contest.
I'm getting ready to go out here in a bit with the impact in 25 compact shooting the 34s at 881 for some squirrels this morning.
I really don't concern myself with pellet cost and just shoot. I shoot probably a couple tins a week between all the calibers.
I'm not made of money but I just prioritize my wants after my family needs are met.
I think the 25 is great for hunting. If I'm plinking it's 22 or my 20cal. I need to get a 20cal regulated pcp and honestly that would be my goto squirrel rig. 20cal is almost perfect for them.
Jon
I'm in a rural area and don't have neighbors to contest.
I'm getting ready to go out here in a bit with the impact in 25 compact shooting the 34s at 881 for some squirrels this morning.
I really don't concern myself with pellet cost and just shoot. I shoot probably a couple tins a week between all the calibers.
I'm not made of money but I just prioritize my wants after my family needs are met.
I think the 25 is great for hunting. If I'm plinking it's 22 or my 20cal. I need to get a 20cal regulated pcp and honestly that would be my goto squirrel rig. 20cal is almost perfect for them.
Jon
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I started with .177. Back then, power and trajectory were big trade offs going with bigger calibers.
Then I went to .22. Didn’t see the point in making a subtle shift to .20, so I skipped that one. I still believe .20 is excellent, but I haven’t made space on my narrow shelf for one.
Then when I wanted a big bore, I skipped .25 and went straight to .30.
If I had to start over I’d buy .177 again for competition but I’d probably buy .25 instead of my .22s and .30s.
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Seems like this has been well covered already and Im late to the party, but I will throw my hat in the ring anyway.
Like many here I do almost exclusively pesting with my pcps and I freakin love the 22Cals. They can do mostly everything the bigger Cals can do, including heavy slugs with "high" bc. But the thing you cannot do with a 30Cal is tune it way down for safety like you can with a 22Cal. I like being able to go slow with a light 15.9g Hades on the off chance there is a risk of property damage or worse. We do a fair amount of walking around looking for rats in bushes or up in trees and there is no way I would do that with any 30Cal. Now when we are in a fixed spot with a large hill backstop at longer ranges with totally clear sight I will use my 25Cal with slugs. But If I had a 22Cal slug setup Id be totally happy too.
That being said I have a 177-22-25, and 30Cal. I think the better choice comparison is the 22 and 25Cals, a lot of people find the 30Cal is waaaay too much for normal use.
Like many here I do almost exclusively pesting with my pcps and I freakin love the 22Cals. They can do mostly everything the bigger Cals can do, including heavy slugs with "high" bc. But the thing you cannot do with a 30Cal is tune it way down for safety like you can with a 22Cal. I like being able to go slow with a light 15.9g Hades on the off chance there is a risk of property damage or worse. We do a fair amount of walking around looking for rats in bushes or up in trees and there is no way I would do that with any 30Cal. Now when we are in a fixed spot with a large hill backstop at longer ranges with totally clear sight I will use my 25Cal with slugs. But If I had a 22Cal slug setup Id be totally happy too.
That being said I have a 177-22-25, and 30Cal. I think the better choice comparison is the 22 and 25Cals, a lot of people find the 30Cal is waaaay too much for normal use.
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I'm getting back to this just to point one thing out. There was mentioning about larger calibers having better bc. I suppose that may be true in some cases.
What I DO KNOW, is a comparison between .22 and .25.
Shooting slugs of the same weight, let's say 40gn, easily found in both calibers and a very viable option for hunting.
If you push 20fps faster on the .25, You can bet Your hiney that they level out at 100 yards due to better ballistic coefficiency of the smaller diameter slug.
What's left is to have a rifle with long enough magazine to accommodate long(ish) slugs to get You where You want to be. AND power to push them.
Someone tell Me I'm wrong.
What I DO KNOW, is a comparison between .22 and .25.
Shooting slugs of the same weight, let's say 40gn, easily found in both calibers and a very viable option for hunting.
If you push 20fps faster on the .25, You can bet Your hiney that they level out at 100 yards due to better ballistic coefficiency of the smaller diameter slug.
What's left is to have a rifle with long enough magazine to accommodate long(ish) slugs to get You where You want to be. AND power to push them.
Someone tell Me I'm wrong.
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You're wrong. I actually don't know if you are or aren't. But you asked someone to so I obliged.
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I was mostly referring to pellets when I said that and for the most part it’s true. Sure, there are some anomalies like .20 pellets mostly having better BCs than .22’s, but in general larger diameter projectiles will have better BCs simply due to the square cube law.
As you increase the overall dimensions of something its mass will increase faster than its surface area , as the area increases by the square of the dimensions and the mass increases by their cube. So a .30 pellet that’s proportionately the same as a .22 pellet will have a higher BC. Of course they aren’t always proportionately the same and a longer .22 pellet with the same weight as a .30 will usually have a better BC. In general however, bigger projectile equals higher BC.
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This is only if you get JSB, as FX 25.39 are $21.99 and it also depends on where you get it from, but on average, .22 is cheaper than .25
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