Tuning Why does this Artemis P18 suck so bad?

[Odoyle]

At least it looks like yours groups better than this other review guy's video. Must be totally normal get these kind of groups I guess...

Start from 10:00...



https://youtu.be/tShiG3yFuUs

Note pay attention to the first group he filmed where the stray pellets land to the upper left and middle left outside the target and he doesn't even measure the WHOLE group and missed the lower 2 that he edited out in the recording busted a second almost gonna show measuring the 1 of the 2 on the bottom that openned it up even more.

The raving YouTube reviews that never seem to throw any negativity I call that's HOLLYWOOD. Good paid actors just doing their job don't hate they are just doing their HOLLYWOOD JOB. YOU GET PAID WITH FREE MERCHANDISE OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU GET PAID TO DO OTHERWUSE NO MORE FREE STUFF RIGHT?

NATE on the other hand DEFINITELY shows and tells it like it REALLY is! That's 4sure! Hats off to ya Nate! I actually no B.S. believe all of your reviews!

 

[jarmstrong]

Check the crown for damage/burrs, make sure everything is tight on the scope (mounts,rail,etc), try single loading for now to make sure pellets arent being damaged, clean the barrel for sure. Their cheap guns, qa in those type of manufacturers are awful. Also, not sure how the barrel is mounted but make sure its tight too.

I'll have to check for burrs. Everything else looks good. I cleaned it before I shot it with a crown saver. I checked all my pellets. It's a single shot gun. Fortunately I can see the end of the barrel with the LDC off.

Does this crown look bad? 

in the second photo, I see land damage about 1/4" back inside, typical SPA barrel lottery loser,

I have zero respect for SPA failure to correct this ever continuing problem, I vote with my wallet, no more SPA for me

 

[vmaxpro]

Yea thats a good thing nate came on here looking for help instead of spreading bs about a junk product. Thanks man!

 

[JohnnyPDX]

3” groups that close isnt tuning. Check the crown for damage/burrs, make sure everything is tight on the scope (mounts,rail,etc), try single loading for now to make sure pellets arent being damaged, clean the barrel for sure. Their cheap guns, qa in those type of manufacturers are awful. Also, not sure how the barrel is mounted but make sure its tight too.

Ditto on crown!!

 

[JohnnyPDX]

I just saw the crown, WOW!

Looks like it done with a rock. My Artemis(s) barrels both needed crown work and now shoot quite excellently.

 

[Centercut]

Send it back and tell them its not ready for review and you feel you've received a defective product. Tell them in the spirit of fairness they can either send you a functioning gun or just refund your money. Make sure THEY know that YOU are doing them a favor...

Mike

 

[kkarmical]

Check the crown for damage/burrs, make sure everything is tight on the scope (mounts,rail,etc), try single loading for now to make sure pellets arent being damaged, clean the barrel for sure. Their cheap guns, qa in those type of manufacturers are awful. Also, not sure how the barrel is mounted but make sure its tight too.

I'll have to check for burrs. Everything else looks good. I cleaned it before I shot it with a crown saver. I checked all my pellets. It's a single shot gun. Fortunately I can see the end of the barrel with the LDC off.

Does this crown look bad? 

in the second photo, I see land damage about 1/4" back inside, typical SPA barrel lottery loser,

I have zero respect for SPA failure to correct this ever continuing problem, I vote with my wallet, no more SPA for me

That is a crappy barrel. At 1/2 price they're probably sending out something that may have already been returned.

I'd send it back for a refund and wouldn't waste more time on it, because that barrel needs to be removed and inspected for more damage. If no additional damage, I'd cut that damaged end and give it a new crown.

 

[Zebra13]

That crown looks like Helen Keller did it with a dull butter knife, and there is something seriously amiss with the land at the 3 o'clock position, about 1/4 inch in from the "crown".

Based on your pictures and your narrative, I'd say doing any further work on the rifle is akin to trying to polish a turd...

Justin

 

[Vetmx]

You should probably avoid reviewing guns from certain manufacturers. With some of their track records, if you the reviewer are lucky enough to get a good one, you still come across as a liar to 6 out of 10 guys who buy one. Reviewers tip toeing on the edge of dishonesty is the reason I never watch them. 

 

[Ripper]

Check the crown for damage/burrs, make sure everything is tight on the scope (mounts,rail,etc), try single loading for now to make sure pellets arent being damaged, clean the barrel for sure. Their cheap guns, qa in those type of manufacturers are awful. Also, not sure how the barrel is mounted but make sure its tight too.

I'll have to check for burrs. Everything else looks good. I cleaned it before I shot it with a crown saver. I checked all my pellets. It's a single shot gun. Fortunately I can see the end of the barrel with the LDC off.

Does this crown look bad? 

That Crown doesn’t look good at all to me.Very rough looking. And it looks like it might have a slight Burr but it’s hard to really tell by the picture.

 

[KatoKevin454]

That crown looks like it was cut with a dull knife...... maybe this would be a good " UNFINISHED FURNITURE " gun video, the Manufacturer leaves all the finishing to you, that's why it cheap....... for those who love to tinker and modify...... 

 

[nervoustrig]

That crowning job and rifling damage is disgraceful at any price. Sadly, it is a common practice for SPA. Both my CR600W and CP2 had similar damage. Fortunately it isn’t a difficult thing for me to correct but that is not true for most owners.

Crosman did the same thing for many years.

It’s really a shame too because every example I’ve corrected has done remarkably well.

My advice is arrange to send it back, show them the photos, and ask them if they have any plans to get their act together. This has been going on since at least 2017

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

Indeed. That crown does look bad. I'd like to think they made some effort to remedy this ongoing issue... Especially given how long its been transpiring. But I do often make similar mistakes (wanting to believe entities or individuals will start to care or make improvements) 

 

[boscoebrea]

 Yep, crown sucks.I think it is Crazy for a company,then a store to send out such a bad rifle,crazy..That said it is a great thing for us buyers to see such a bad specimen of air rifle,We are warned...

Nate does his best and gets better ....

I agree 100% with Centercut what to do.....maybe the "store" will put pressure on Artemis to hire some quality assurance people that have good eyesight and know what they are doing..

Remember what someone said about Chinese goods,it is cheaper for them to replace than to fix the problem..

Artemis=crap shoot....like the new owner becomes the final inspector and worker. LOL sorry, I know it ain't funny.

 

[Vetmx]

For the last 3 years I have seen this with their guns. Someone needs to send all the little kids running around on the factory floor crowning barrels with hand drills some new drill bits. You will not lose any credibility if you send the gun back. Try to pass this gun off as something it’s not in a fluff piece.........

 

[kaylaindy]

Thanks for the advice guys! You brought up some great points about the videos and dealing with the "store". I didn't want to disappoint the airgun store. I asked for that particular gun because I figured a regulator = accuracy. So it's kind of half my fault. Now that I heard how bad that barrel is and that it's a manufacturing issue, I'm thinking I should just do the straight review and take the heat from the store. I have to think about this one. I'm pretty sure the store won't want to work with me again...but who knows, maybe they will be cool.

Thanks for all the input! -Nate

 

[kaylaindy]

Send it back and tell them its not ready for review and you feel you've received a defective product. Tell them in the spirit of fairness they can either send you a functioning gun or just refund your money. Make sure THEY know that YOU are doing them a favor…

Mike

OK, I'll probably do that. Thanks! -Nate 

 

[Vetmx]

Thanks for the advice guys! You brought up some great points about the videos and dealing with the "store". I didn't want to disappoint the airgun store. I asked for that particular gun because I figured a regulator = accuracy. So it's kind of half my fault. Now that I heard how bad that barrel is and that it's a manufacturing issue, I'm thinking I should just do the straight review and take the heat from the store. I have to think about this one. I'm pretty sure the store won't want to work with me again...but who knows, maybe they will be cool.

Thanks for all the input! -Nate

You are not going to disappoint the store, they disappointed you. Are you blinded by YouTube $$? 

 

[PumaCarl]

News Flash: This thread looks like a review to me. Good job! Get the word out, it's the only way they will improve. A review guns quality isn't a reflection on yours, unless you suppress or omit the truth of it.

By the way, you said you've never seen a airgun regulated at 100 Bar? The .177/.22 Gauntlet, from the factory, is regulated at 85 Bar. Some of those come rough, but everyone that I have shot has been very accurate.

 

[cosmic]

 Just some info on this Airforce clone.. The dial on the side is a hammer spring adjuster.. I believe the small screw between the manometers is the reg adjustment.. SEND IT BACK !!